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The Fine Homebuilding Podcast

Podcast Episode 106 — Strong Convictions on Green Building

Fiber cement repair, rough inspection, net-zero homes, badly designed roofs, repairing rot with epoxy, crawlspaces, and drywall returns.

By Michael Moran Alterio
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The Fine Homebuilding Podcast: Episode 106 (site)
Justin Fink, Brian Pontolilo, and Rob Yagid talk about the coming code changes in California that will require new homes to be net-zero by 2020. Plus, fiber cement repair, rough inspection, badly designed roofs, repairing rot, and crawlspaces.
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    In this episode, Justin Fink, Brian Pontolilo, and Rob Yagid go off script to talk about siding repair on fiber cement, which has some tricky bits to it. The guys also talk about Rob’s recent rough inspection — framing, plumbing, and electrical. Which brings us to Rob and Patrick’s less-than-serious tactics for finessing an inspection:

    • Bribe the inspector with copies of Fine Homebuilding magazine.
    • Watch to see if he turns off his truck. If he keeps it on, it’s a good sign if he wants to get out fast.
    • Chat with the inspector to distract him from the inspection.

    Turning to listener questions, Alexander butters up “overlord and supreme ruler Justin Fink” with a question about California’s drive to push more new housing stock to the net-zero level. Code updates, photovoltaics, and more are the issues here, and that’s especially relevant for Fine Homebuilding because our next demonstration home will be in California. We’ll be unveiling that in the August 2018 issue. Rob mentions that the coming code changes are going to ruffle feathers, and Brian declares that he supports the new rules 100%. Brian says that we clearly know how to build zero-energy homes, in cost effective ways. “Not doing it, in my opinion, is just being resistant to a better way to build a house,” he says.

    For another viewpoint, Justin says he wants to put up a big solar panel array just to tick off the neighbors he does not like.

    The guys also talk about trends in factory-framed panelized walls vs prefab modules.

    Next, FHB ambassador Tyler Grace sent in a question about this low-slung ranch on steriods:

    “The most poorly designed roof I’ve ever seen,” says Rob. Take a look at these two photos:

     

    Listener Greg asks about drywall returns. To see his photos, please click the Launch Gallery button at the bottom of this post.

    And there are two crawlspace questions to finish off the podcast. Listener Dane has a question about spray foam over a dirt floor of a crawlspace. The guys are okay with it. That leads to a discussion of foam under a slab. And listener Joe wonders if he has a ventilation problem with leakage from his crawlspace.

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    The show is driven by our listeners, so please subscribe and rate us on iTunes or Google Play, and if you have any questions you would like us to dig into for a future show, shoot an email our way: [email protected]. Also, be sure to follow Justin Fink, Rob Yagid, and Fine Homebuilding on Instagram — and “like” the magazine on Facebook. Note that you can watch the show above, or on YouTube at the Fine Homebuilding YouTube Channel.

    The Fine Homebuilding Podcast embodies Fine Homebuilding magazine’s commitment to the preservation of craftsmanship and the advancement of home performance in residential construction. The show is an informal but vigorous conversation about the techniques and principles that allow listeners to master their design and building challenges.

    Links related to this episode:

    • From the NRDC.org site: New California Building Efficiency Standards Set the Stage for Zero Net Energy Homes by 2020.
    • LA Times article: Energy-efficient homes seem to sell faster, fetch higher prices.
    • Fine Homebuilding’s prior ProHOME demonstration house projects.
    • Building Skills: Repairing Rot with Epoxy.
    • All FHB podcast show notes: FineHomebuilding.com/podcast.
    • Sales of the NEWLY REDESIGNED #KeepCraftAlive tee-shirts support scholarships for building trades students. So go order some shirts at KeepCraftAlive.org.
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    And click Launch Gallery to see those window photos from listener Greg.

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    1. ISerge | Mar 25, 2018 09:40am | #1

      It would be crazy to start ripping into that roof as a first solution. It's not so much a poorly designed roof as it is a poorly and inadequately designed gutter system. Adding gutter to every roof plane termination above the problem areas would likely fix things. Someone was trying to be too elegant and minimalist in gutter application.

    2. kjkoskinen | Mar 25, 2018 12:01pm | #2

      Regarding spray foam on dirt: Polyurethane spray foam should not be sprayed on wet surfaces. It throws off the reaction and could cause issues like smells and unsafe offgassing. It should be sprayed on poly or tyvek. The grade should be smooth. The foam will always lift off of the ground. If it is thick enough, like the 4” mentioned, it wont break at the bubbles when crawled on. Just did this in a crawlspace for second time. And water underneath it after curing is no problem.

    3. Mike_Guertin | Mar 26, 2018 10:11pm | #3

      Regarding the advice on nailing/replacing fibercement planks. Everything you need to know is on this FHB video. I'm surprised that none of the guys remembered it. Maybe that was when they were just interns. - It was a long time ago - I didn't have gray hair.
      https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2013/10/28/repairing-damaged-siding-series-fiber-cement-repair

    4. JC72 | Mar 30, 2018 10:20am | #4

      Solar and California. In my humble opinion since all homes will be required to remain tied to the grid power companies will be allowed to make up for lost revenues by charging a higher base charge. Why? The States do NOT want power companies going out of business because they don't want to assume the pension obligations for the workers (who are also voters btw). In addition a lot of pensions funds are invested in utilities.

      Homes under the new program in California probably will not be built better because solar will be used to offset energy consumption. It'll be very difficult for a homeowner to obtain satisfaction if his/her home is underperforming because the builder will blame occupant behavior over less than perfect (i.e. air leaks) construction.

      My 2 cents

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