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The Fine Homebuilding Podcast

Podcast Episode 164: Self-Installed Sump Pump, Upgraded Board and Batten, and Favorite House Styles

Justin Fink shows of his custom-built Dutch door before joining in discussions about French drains, siding details, and popular eras in American home building.

By Patrick McCombe, Matthew Millham, Justin Fink
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      Justin’s Storm Windows: And his new Dutch door.

      Patrick’s Faucet: Installed with a single-use faucet wrench.

      Justin's Dutch Door

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      Matt’s Recall Information: Navien water heater carbon monoxide poisoning, DeWALT drill shock hazard.

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      Listener Feedback: Horizontal or Vertical Wall Sheathing?

       

      Kevin writes: On a recent Fine Homebuilding Podcast episode, someone said horizontal orientation is superior to vertical. They did not cite a source supporting the statement. APA maintains both installations are equal provided the panels are attached to framing or blocking. Can you please cite their source or at least clarify which, if either, orientation is superior?

      Another Wet & Forget endorsement.

      Martin’s backyard tape test.

      European building methods, Turkey remodel project, and the Bosch GTM 12 Combination Saw.

       


      Question 1: Where is the water penetrating?

      Adam in Virginia sent us a short video showing us the leaks he discovered when demoing the interior of a newly acquired 6-unit rental property.

       

      Related links:

      • How to Apply Drip-Edge and Underlayments
      • Drip-Edge Retrofit

       


      Question 2: Can I install my own French drain and sump pump?

       

      Matt from Columbus writes: Hey FHB Team! Long time, first time. My wife and I are wrapping up a full home renovation (strip the house back to studs and starting over). There’s one major job that I’m not sure of tackling or leaving to a pro: the basement has a water problem. When it rains you can hear water trickling in the wall cavity after rains and we do get a slight stream of water flowing to the floor drain after heavy downpour.

      The house was built in 1946 with a full basement with block walls on a poured slab and no sump pump. I need a sump installed anyways and was thinking of putting in French drain along with dimple board at the same time to solve the problem. My wife and I have tackled most of the other renovations done to our house and I have some construction experience. I’m familiar enough with all the steps involved, and the thought of renting a jackhammer and gas powered wet saw sounds really cool: is this something that can be tackled by an above average skilled DIYer? Is there anything I need to be concerned with that would push this into the realm of hiring a professional?

      PS: Did I mention I’d get to rent a concrete saw and a jack hammer for this job?

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      • Interior vs. exterior foundation drains
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      Question 3: What’s the best way to upgrade my board and batten?

       

      Jonathan from Ontario writes: Hey guys, I’m currently working through all the podcasts and I have to say I do really enjoy listening to you guys.

      I live in a 1986 2-story country house in Ontario (that’s in Canada FYI). The windows were updated about 8 years ago by the previous owner and done incorrectly. The siding is wood board and batten and is getting close to needing to be replaced. Underneath the board and batten is #15 felt paper over horizontal furring strips and the insulation. I will clarify there is no sheathing whatsoever.

      When I replace the siding I’d also like to replace the windows and doors to ensure it’s all done correctly. Will it be an issue for me to add sheathing and rigid foam insulation? I’d like to add as much rigid foam as possible given that my house is currently massively under insulated. Is it better to attach the insulation or the sheathing first (which order to layer it)?

      You guys seem to knock vinyl quite a bit on the show, which type of siding would be best for me to achieve the board and batten look without the maintenance issues of wood?

      Also if you know of a place in Ontario (Canada) that sells the zip system or the spray on WRB that was featured in one of your recent magazines I would love to know where I can get it, I haven’t been able to find a supplier up here of those products. Thanks so much for your help!

      Related links:

        • Why Use a Spray-Applied Water-Resistive Barrier?
        • Calculating the Minimum Thickness of Rigid Foam Sheathing

       


      Question 4: If you were to choose a house from any style/era what would it be and why?

       

      Ryan writes: Afternoon guys,  I’m about to begin the search for another house. Trying to narrow down the search leads to my question: If you were to choose a house from any style/era what would it be and why?

      The thought of a new well built house is great but I don’t know if I can justify all of those resources bring poured into a new house when there are other homes out there that are vacant.

      Thanks!

      We’re actually a little up in the air. Currently we live in Western Washington but we’re considering moving back home to New England- north eastern CT. My wife is very partial to the Craftsman style homes we saw all over California and that’s what she would prefer if that aids at all in the discussion.

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      Four-Square

      Saltbox

      Dog Trot

       


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      1. Deleted | Feb 28, 2019 07:33am | #1

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      2. mranch | Feb 28, 2019 08:54pm | #2

        The download link is for episode 158. Does anyone know where to download #164?

      3. TorontoBoyJim | Mar 06, 2019 04:32pm | #3

        To Jonathan from Ontario (from another Ontario resident):

        I think Goodfellow (otherwise known as Oliver Lumber) is the distributor for ZIP in ontario.

        Also - after some shed research, I found the LP Smartside product line: https://lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim - they have flay panels and probably trim pieces that could be used for your solid panel with battens on top look of board & batten siding. May be a good option after a wrap of EPS or polyiso.

        keep up the good work Patrick & entourage!!

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