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The Fine Homebuilding Podcast

Podcast Episode 181: Ethical Business Practices, Pass-Through Windows, and Cutting Asbestos Shingles

The Fine Homebuilding editors talk about doing right by your clients, opening up a kitchen to the outdoors, following EPA guidelines when removing asbestos siding, and more.

By Patrick McCombe, Kiley Jacques, Matthew Millham
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The Fine Homebuilding editors talk about doing right by your clients, opening up a kitchen to the outdoors, following EPA guidelines when removing asbestos siding, and more.
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      Patrick, Matt, and Kiley start the episode with updates on several personal projects before attempting to help a few listeners with their own remodeling questions. Plus they dig into the topic of contractor ethics and the reputation the construction industry has for shifty business practices––an issue that conscientious builders have to overcome on a regular basis.

       


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      Double-decker dormerDoug writes:  Regarding the blue “dormer wonderland”, although I agree with all the comments made, it did bring to mind something my barber said many decades ago. There was something he liked that I didn’t and he said “that’s why they make red cars, and blue cars, and brown cars, and green cars…” There is something for every one’s taste.

       

       

       


      Editor Projects

       

      Kiley’s outdoor projects: Wood shed complete; painting shed, removing rust from siding

       

      • Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
      • CLR Calcium, Lime & Rust Remover
      • Spray & Forget

      Matt: Update on his shed roof​

       


      Question 1: Are there clear guidelines for ethics in the construction business?

       

      Dave from Plainfield, VT writes: I am interested in hearing is you all’s take on contractor ethics. Period. Contractors don’t always have the best rep as ethical folks, and for sure there are bad actors out there. For extra sure there are a lot more of us trying our level best (pun? maybe intended) to do what is right and do great work. Of course, there’s legality, but I’m not as interested in that as I am in simply being an ethical person, and doing what is fair and just. Sometimes that means I take a hit on behalf of the client, sometimes it means I hold firm and stick up for myself. It’s a fine line to be sure.

      What do you think?

      Thanks for all you’re doing for the trades and for #Keep(ing)CraftAlive!

       

      Related links:

      • HOUSE: by Tracy Kidder
      • Carpentry Ethics – Framer Larry Haun considers the difference between building a perfect house and giving a client the most for their money

       


      Question 2: Is there such thing as a pocket window?

       

      Corey and Megan from Roanoke, VA write: Hello FHB team.  I have loved your podcasts and truly believe you bring all kinds of helpful things to the table.

      My wife and I are about to start on a kitchen remodel for a house we moved into 6 months ago.  We’ve worked with a GC and a designer to ensure our kitchen is truly a functional space as we both like to cook as do our kids. We’re doing the full nine yards: moving some walls to optimize the space, relocating the sink and island, new cabinets and appliances.

      I’d like your input on the following:
      We have a triple bank of windows that we found were racked during the home inspection, so they’re being replaced during this renovation.

      During this project we plan to add a screened porch with bar-type seating on the inside and outside of this window so when the windows are open there is a pass through to the porch (inspiration photo:)

      Casement windows will cause issues when swung out and looking for your opinions on either an accordion-type window that folds onto itself when open, or a window that looks like a traditional double-hung but swings up like the ones made by the Foldup window (foldupwindow.com). Appears like the Foldup version can be quite wide and can fold either in or out.  Obviously looking for a window that’s strong over time, easy to open/close, and energy efficient.

      Would love to hear your thoughts or maybe you have other options we should consider.
      Thanks FHB team!

      Related links:

      • ProTech Pocket Windows
      • NanaWall Folding Windows
      • NanaWall Reinvents the Kitchen

       


      Question 3: How can I safely and effectively cut a hole in a wall with asbestos shingles?

       

      Noah from Hudson Valley NY writes: Hi Fine Homebuilders, I am a fan of the show, just left a raving review.

      I’m fairly new to the construction field and have been using my skills to improve my 1900 farmhouse in NY’s Hudson Valley.

      I’ve purchased gable end vents to install in the currently unvented attic (fiberglass insulation is between the attic floor joists)but it requires cutting through brittle asbestos shingle siding. Is there a method for doing this without destroying the shingles? And could you please review health/safety precautions for dealing with this material?

      Thanks!

      Related links:

      • Fine Homebuilding Forum asbestos question
      • The Best Practices for Lead-Safe Remodeling
      • Ask the Experts: Should I close off my gable vents?

       


      Question 4: Why is my inspector asking for a vapor barrier over my insulation?

       

      Anna from Atlanta writes: Hi guys, This is a story of one thing leading to another. When installing skylights in our living room, which required us to remove the sheetrock & insulation in the vicinity, we discovered that the ends of some of the ceiling joists were rotten (missing). This led us to notice the rotten top plate of the fireplace. We followed the damaged studs all the way down the wall. We reframed the face of the fireplace and am happy to say it is framing is inspector approved.

      The inspector told us that he wanted to see (for the future rough insulation inspection) a vapor barrier on the Rockwool we used in the chimney chase. There was no insulation in the chase before… and we decided to go with Rockwool over fiberglass batt insulation (which would have had its own integrated vapor barrier of course) for this location. My question is this: what should we use for the vapor barrier? I can’t seem to find a clear answer online for this specific location inside the chimney case.

      We are located in Atlanta and the home is a ’70/’80’s contemporary. Thanks so much! I love the podcast!

      Related links:

      • Do I Need a Vapor Retarder?
      • How it Works: Vapor Drive
      • Questions and Answers About Air Barriers

       


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      1. Homerr | May 24, 2019 01:17pm | #1

        RE question 2: how about a short (2 panel) insulated overhead style door - like a garage door? Similar to pic.

        https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/cd912d470de65e66_4-6365/home-design.jpg

        Jeff

      2. Jwwalk0509 | May 30, 2019 03:48pm | #2

        Magic erasers are simply melamine foam (a very very high grit abrasive).

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine_foam

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