Here is the deal.
my local lumber supplier has the Dewalt 12″ SCMS on sale for $549.00…wow!!!
Already Own a dual bevel 12″ miter saw. but who am I to pass up a good deal.. Don’t really need the saw right this minute but it has crossed my mind considering the price.
Been holding out to someday buy a 10″ Slider for finish work.
I have heard some guys say that the 10″ saws don’t wobble as much giving a more accurate cut for trim….
But the price on the twelve is pretty attractive, all of about $20 more than the 10″ slider.
Anyone have an opinion or experience on the the 10″ saws for more accuracy or with the 12″ sliders being wobbly.
Thanks
Ray.
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if you are cutting huge boards, then 12", but otherwise I would get the 10"
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I don't cut alot of huge boards like 2x12s and such.I wanted the sliding miter saw for trim, stair treads and the occasional 1x10 or 1x12.
the new Dewalt 10" slider also has the best vertical cut for a 10" hich is good for cutting 5 1/2 " base on the vertical.
a 10" has the same crosscut capacity as a 12" i believe.
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I have a 10" Makita slider and the 12" slider. I really prefer the 10". It will crosscut a 2x12" and has a more controllable feel. I'll use the 12" for thick cuts and tall Crown Moldings. The 12" has a soft start, so it doesn't kick-up when you pull the trigger.
If I had to have just one, it would be a Makita sliding crosscut and the 10" size.
Bill
A buddy of mine has a makita 10" sliding miter saw and says he loves it for trim. He also has the Dewalt 12 non sliding miter saw for everday use. I have only seen the saw a couple of times but it does look like a nice one.
I originally thought that when it was time to get a SCMS i would get the bosch, i like how it is built and some of the features are very nice.
I do however like the higher vertical cut on the dewalt, which if you only have one of your saws with you and it is time to do some baseboard I want to be able to cut it on the vertical, only if it's under 5 1/2"Thanks for the input guys;)Ray
I personally have the older Bosch 10 inch saw and really like it. I always need to make a better fence though, b/c that;s one area it's not so good.
I was just up in Boston-area with Tucker Windover doing a video on built up crown and he had the same saw, but newer version. The final assembly was pretty darn big, 3 or 4 pieces total. He cut each piece on its own, so clearance wasn't an issue.
Now, with that said, I just saw that Home Depot has the big Rigid 12 inch saw Kit Camp tested for us on sale for $349. That is a deal, considering it was $500 up until last week.
If I didn't just buy 18 squares of siding, I would be all over that. Kit liked the Rigid with the exception that he thought the hold down clamp popped out too easily. I thought the saw had the best table of the bunch, and would be a great shop saw.
JP
I was out shopping for a 10" slider. One of my reasons for going smaller was portability, another was the fact that I have a good collection of 10" blades from my table saw.
Granted, miter saw manufacturers recommend negative hook blades for their saws so the teeth don't catch in the stock and cause the head to come running towards you on the slides...but that wasn't a concern for me. It might be for others.
So for the ability to swap blades out between my table and miter saw, I was looking at 10" saws.
But I ended up really liking the features on and thus purchasing the Milwaukee 12" slider. For me, not too much of a breaker, as I have an old 12" non-slider, so I already have a good collection of 12" blades.
But had I not already owned several 12" blades, I might have thought harder about staying in the 10" family.
So blade collection might be a factor for you.
As far as wobbly blades or runout, I haven't had a problem with the 12" Milwaukee. I didn't have runout problems on my old Dewalt, either.
Fence and bed size could be a factor, depending on if you cut crown on the flat or upside-down and backwards...the Rigid I looked at had a fabulous bed. Or you can add an aux fence if you get a saw with a smaller fence.
Prices are dropping though, if you really don't need it you could probably wait and you might see better deal come over the horizon.
RE: 12" wobble...
I used to have Freud Blade stabilizers, they were like big washers that you used on a TS or RAS to dampen the thin kerf blades...I guess they'd not work on most chop saw arbors, but I wish there was something like that. My bosch with a freud blade has just enough deflection to be PITA when making a sliver slice less than full kerf.
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I have seen the Milwawkee saw as well and was impressed with it, but since i already have a 12" saw , I am still looking for a good 10".Some of the reasons that i think a 10" SCMS would be better are smaller blades with hopefully better accuracy for fine finish work, hopefully not too heavy or big. Only have limited space in the back of the truck with all the other stuff i carry on a day to day basis.This whole thing started when my lumber yard had the Dewalt 12" slider on clearance for $549.00. At that point I almost could'nt hold back, but I did. The Dewalt 10" SCMS is about $529.00 online. Not sure how much more the 12 wieghs vs the 10"..... None of us are getting any older or stronger so wieght does play a role in the buying process now a days... not that I'm that old or anything, I'm just not looking to lug a big piece of equipment around if I don't have to.Thanks for the imputRay:)
Edited 12/6/2008 10:55 am ET by raymond128
Yep. I know what you mean -- smaller blades = better accuracy (and less expense!), and a smaller, lighter tool overall.And with a compressor, a table saw, and a slider in your truck, you've used up an awful lot of room. And the slider is probably the most awkward-to-store tool we carry.I still have my first-generation 8 1/2" Hitachi, and it's the one I use most. That purchase was an easy decision to make, because it was the only one out there!I bought the DW SCMS when I needed to miter and scarf some 4x6s. The DW guys were just setting up for the next day at HD, and told me that if I was one of the first three buyers, I'd get a free DW stand.And I do use it when I have to cut large crown, because I cut crown upside-down and backwards. The sloppy, out-of-square back fence is no problem for that application. But otherwise I only load it up when the Hitachi is too small for the job at hand.AitchKay
I've got the 12" DW slider, and haven't had too much trouble with wobble. Not as stiff as a 10", though.
The thing that makes so many of these saws worthless to me is the lame back fence. My DW tilts back about 1/16", so I can't cut base standing up.
I went to the store to check another DW, and compare it to the Bosch.
The Bosch wasn't as bad, but it had a lean of at least 1/32". Once again, worthless for stand-up cuts.
If I can get decent money for my DW, I'll probably buy a Kapex.
AitchKay
"If I can get decent money for my DW, I'll probably buy a Kapex."I have the DW 12" cms and the DW 12" slider. I can't complain too much about the slider, but it doesn't have the accuracy of the 12" cms.
If things keep working out with the guy I'm doing high end stuff with at the moment, I might join you and sell the 12" slider and step up to the Kapex.
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Sometimes it just takes that ONE job, too!AitchKay