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$189 replacement windows INSTALLED

BillHartmann | Posted in General Discussion on July 20, 2007 11:26am

I have been asked to look at house and suggest repairs and on going maintace.

I know that one of the issues is going to be replacement windows.

Locally (Kansas City) we have a franchise of Window World that is advertising replacement windows for $189 INSTALLED for upto 48″ x 84″ DH.

And I have heard that one of HO has been hearing there ads.

http://www.windowworld-ks-mo.com/

The parent company list 4 different levels of windows but I don’t know what the local company uses.

http://www.windowworldinc.com/

But I found a franchise in Denver that had more details.

http://www.windowworldcolorado.com/

$189 DH clear douple pane glass, lifetiem waranty, 1/2 screen

$279 LowE, argon glass, transfable warranty, glass breakage warranty.

$389 Tripple pain.

They also tout the “feature” that you can stand on their windows.

As anybody ran across these windows? Do they really do them for $189 or is that a common for upselling to $500 windows?

I have seen the house in the past, but don’t remeber the details. IIRC it is a 1965-75 (raised) ranch, typical basic tract house for the area. And the windows are wood DH, but might there are a few aluminum ones in the area. I know that there is T-111 siding on one end, but don’t know about the other sides.

And I am not sure what my role is in this. I am getting all of this 3rd hand by the person that is arranging the look see.

So I don’t know what the questions are, but I am still expected to have reasonable answers.

Personally I have not replaced any windows and don’t know if I want get started doing it in this house, for several reasons. One of which is that I am not going to compete with $189.

But if I did what would the the price be for a “typical” vinyl replacement window?

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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
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  1. JDale | Jul 20, 2007 11:55pm | #1

    I have a little knowledge of Window World here in eastern NC.  From what I have seen and heard they do install inexspensive replacement windows.  I cannot compete with them.

    They seem to be a decent window, of course they are not top of the line.

    However when they do the work they then install aluminum coil stock over the existing brickmould and sill.  If it is rotten they just cover it up.

    I had a client who wanted replacement on his beach house.  I suggested WW he had them do it and they did it just as described above.  He was not happy.  The coil stock looked like holy heck and to top it off the house had beveled cedar siding and cedar trim.

    Picture cedar siding with coil stock.

    John

  2. bobbys | Jul 21, 2007 12:51am | #2

    i dont know about them but i know i bid to install windows correct, For example i would bid to remove the siding then install, These other companys will just nail the window on, put some trim on top and call her good, It will be rotten with the whole wall in a few years, half the price and no one knows , very frustrating

  3. DonK | Jul 21, 2007 03:18am | #3

    Bill

    The average install on many replacement windows is simple.

    Typical double hung - remove stop molding that holds in lower sash, pull out the lower sash and disconnect from springs ), pull out blind stop between the windows - no need to save the pieces, and pull out upper sash like the lower ones.  Time spent on demo 20 minutes tops.

    Installing replacements - after you figure out which one it is in the stack of 30 on the truck, carry it in and remove plastic and strapping from the unit, slide the bottom sash up, pick it up and dry fit it in the hole. Take it back out and install the extension cap if needed and the bottom adjuster, then caulk the heck out of the outside. Push it in place. Put screws in top and bottom left and right - 4 total. Reinstall molding. Figure 20 minutes if you don't fool around.

    So, 40 minutes each if you work alone and I'm being pretty generous.  If you use a better window it will cost more. If you take time and level the install, maybe use some insulation here and there, it will take longer. Don't forget the time to measure the windows and take the order to the manufacturer if they aren't stock sizes - that's another trip/day. Make money at it? There are many that do. Some are better than others.   

    Aluminum trim on the outside is an option, one I suspect that you won't get for $189/window. Time there depends on the skill of the crew and how much caulk they use.

    Good luck.

    Don K.

    EJG Homes     Renovations - New Construction - Rentals

     

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      BillHartmann | Jul 22, 2007 05:16am | #4

      Well I found out what they have. The house was built around 1985-90.They are a werid aluminum/PVC window insulated glass.The side jamb is extruded aluminum track. The lower sash top headrail was Aluminum but some PVC below it. the sash sytles where PVC and the at least part of the bottom rail is PVC. And it is broken allowing air in.Also, while I did not see any signs of movement there was enough play between the jamp and sash that you could cock the sash and have 1/4" gap.Also the windows are set in DW returns. I did not get to see a closeup of the exterior so I don't know if you could replace them from their.I ain't touching something like that.But is there a way to replace those without having to replace the return drywall, etc..
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      A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

      1. DonK | Jul 22, 2007 06:22am | #5

        There was a thread a while ago about changing windows from the outside. I have never done it, but it seemed that some people have. That method would alleviate the need to change the returns --- as long as the window thickness is the same. The design of the sides needs to be somewhat flat for a replacement window to fit right in. I don't know if yours are or not from the description.

        Another method might be to use one of the insert kits from one of the big companies - I believe Anderson and Pella both make them now. Again, no personal experience, just thinking out loud.

        Good luck on your search.

        Don K.

        EJG Homes      Renovations - New Construction - Rentals

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