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   mikerooney | Aug 30, 2004 01:58am | #1

   "If it don't fit, you must acquit."

    

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   calvin | Aug 30, 2004 01:59am | #2

   bob, don't think a 2' is too small for a sink/toilet room.  It's worked here with no complaints.  I think only the widest s.o.b. would consider it too narrow.  Better than the door not opening all the way.

   Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

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   ed2 | Aug 30, 2004 01:59am | #3

   got a 2'-0" door into a full bath    bath entry crowded by chimney    not generous, but no one's got stuck in it yet   have a sawzall if that happens

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   mikerooney | Aug 30, 2004 03:16am | #4

   Would a pocket door work? I can fit through a 1'0", but I'd say 2'4" min. 

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   Piffin | Aug 30, 2004 05:13am | #5

   2'4" for a full bath, but 2'0" OK for a powder room. Seen it often.

   I like pocket doors, but not for bathrooms. privacy is poor

    

    

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   DougU | Aug 30, 2004 05:16am | #6

   The house we recently sold had a 2' 0 door and it never seemed to be a problem.

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   Dinosaur | Aug 30, 2004 06:15am | #7

   24" doors are pretty standard for small baths and powder rooms here. No problems--just make sure you put the tub or any other large items inside the partition walls before you install the door, LOL....

   Dinosaur

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   mizshredder2 | Aug 30, 2004 12:55pm | #8

   I've got a coupla them in my current house - 2nd access to 2nd bath and for Powder Room.  Although they've not caused me or my guests any problem, there is sadness in the realization that a NEW friend, who's a victim's advocate - and in a wheelchair - cannot be accommodated in this house.  Not with any "dignity" anyway...and I regret those narrow doorways.

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   jhausch | Aug 30, 2004 08:12pm | #10

   My first thought was accesability, too.  An aging population will begin asking these questions more and more.

   I would use the 2' door if there were another bath on the same floor that was accessbile.  If it was the only bath on that floor, I would do all I could to accomodate a larger door.

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   CapnMac | Aug 30, 2004 09:36pm | #11

   You had the same thought as I did.  But, the bath or powder room probably is non-compliant as is.  Since the question was would a 2-2 be fine, that's why I mentioned all the 2-0s being used. 

   Now, had the question been how to make a powder room compliant, that would have been much different.  Like needing a 14-18" "approach" zone on the strike side of the door, which would have to be 2-8 or better wide.  Then, there'd be the accessible lavatory & grab barred WC.  Which would make for most of a gut rehab.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   CapnMac | Aug 30, 2004 07:58pm | #9

   too narrow for a powder room?

   FLW drew up his "Usonian" house using a 24" grid and interior doors to match.  When asked about the "non standard" size, his reply was that trains & busses all had aisles that wide and they were not a problem.

   About half the existing construction in town uses a 2-0 door for baths & closets (older, like 50+ seem to use a uniform 2-6 interior door).  The new stuff going in seems to either use a 2-6 or a 2-0 (saw a 4/10 mill spec house with a 650 sf master bath not long ago; closet doors were 2-6, but the "toilet room" door was a 2-0--go figure).

   Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
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   JohnSprung | Aug 31, 2004 01:34am | #12

   Here in LA it's the other way around.  You find 24" doors in old construction, but now they require a minimum of 32" for all interior doors except closets.

   -- J.S.

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   CapnMac | Aug 31, 2004 08:08pm | #13

   require a minimum of 32" for all interior doors except closets

   I'm not surprised.

   Would not be surprised if the rooms behind those doors are not required to be barrier free, even if the doors are . . .

   Closets cannot be far behind in Cali . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   Dinosaur | Sep 01, 2004 06:58am | #18

   Izzat because everybody in LA wears a size 32 hat??Dinosaur

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   gordsco | Aug 31, 2004 08:52pm | #14

   I see 2'-0" doors in baths and powder rooms all the time. What I rarely see, is a section of clear wall long enough to put a towel bar on.

   I finished a $1m home about a year ago. The ensuite was worth about 50 grand. The was so much #### in there, cabinets, closets, mirrors, glass shower, angled walls, etc...we had to install towel rings because there wasn't a space larger than 12" to put a bar on.

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   CapnMac | Sep 01, 2004 12:56am | #15

   there wasn't a space larger than 12" to put a bar on

   That's a detail that bugs me, too.

   However, there's often a spot you can use.  Either behind the open dopor, or on the back of the door itself.  If you mount to the door, you often have to get a solid core, and while you're at it, and extra hinge to carry the weight better.  Oh, and stack the rods, 36" & 72" AFF will get you twice as many towels in the same width.  You can get the hotel-style stacking towel rack/shelves, which will tuck in over the showerhead nicely (unless you forgot to put the towel(s) there before turning the water on . . . <g>)Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   Snort | Sep 01, 2004 04:21am | #16

   I don't get out much, mind showing a pic of that hotel bar behind the shower head?

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   HomeBuilder1975 | Sep 01, 2004 04:29am | #17

   Bob:

   I will absolutely not use any 2-0 doors for anything except maybe an entry closet.  If someone's got to pass thru the door to enter the room (even a closet, bath, whatever), I want at least a 2-4, preferably a 2-6 or 2-8.  If all you do is open the door, hang up a coat, I might use a 2-0 if that's all will fit. 

   Allan

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   CapnMac | Sep 01, 2004 10:10pm | #19

   showing a pic of that hotel bar behind the shower head

   Forgot to snap one at lunch, this is out of the bed bath & beyond catalog:

   Mount it about 2-3" above the shower head, and it's a good spot for the towels.  You can put one down at the other end, too.  Dimensions are about  24" wide, 11" tall, 8" deep.  Price tag is about $20.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   Piffin | Sep 02, 2004 04:26am | #21

   Or you can spend five to six times as much at Pottery barn for one somewhat larger. 

    

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   CapnMac | Sep 02, 2004 07:37pm | #24

   six times as much at Pottery barn

   LoL!

   Or three bucks less at Target for the Indonesian knock-off . . . <g>

   Used to have a link to the hotel hardware supply place down Houston way, but it has wandered off . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   Snort | Sep 03, 2004 03:59am | #25

   That sounds great for for a hotel with maid service to change the towels every day<G> Drying towels out over the shower head would be a little hard to push to HOs. I have put plenty of those rigs up, just never over the shower.

   Now, tell me why the really gimiky bath hardware always has the worst mounting system? Don't worry, we can fix that later!

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   CapnMac | Sep 03, 2004 07:52pm | #27

   the really gimiky bath hardware always has the worst mounting system

   Lol! I thought one casued the other!Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

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   AndyEngel | Sep 04, 2004 01:59pm | #28

   The CABO code I'm used to in NJ and CT, and I suspect the new IRC, require a door that is a minimum of 32 in. wide into all spaces that are greater than ten square feet.

   AndyArguing with a Breaktimer is like mud-wrestling a pig -- Sooner or later you find out the pig loves it.

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    dIrishInMe | Sep 02, 2004 03:22am | #20

    I'm not sure I've seen a 2'2" door before.  I'm sure it will be special order, but you might want to check to see if they are available at all.

    Matt
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   Piffin | Sep 02, 2004 04:30am | #22

   I can get doors from 12"W up to 42" W sized up in two inch increments. Some sizes are less common and require a wait, but not a problem to get with a good supplier. Lousy suppliers are pretty free with the comment, "You can't get that" or "They don't make that anymore" which simply means, "I'm too damned lazy to try to get this for you" 

    

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   gdavis62 | Sep 02, 2004 02:57pm | #23

   Thanks to all for the good discussion.  I moved some things, squeezed out some space from elsewhere, and now can get a 2/4 door in this spot, with room for trim on both sides.

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    NeilBlanchard | Sep 03, 2004 05:22am | #26

    Hello:

    Yes, I think it is a bit too small -- some codes only allow 2'-4" doors on bathrooms and 2'-6" is the smallest allowed on other rooms. Quick story for ya:

    My brother Nathan (who worked for 10 years for Finley Perry, BTW) lived in a house that had a 2'-0 x 6'-6" (built in the *cheap* '70's) on the bathroom door. He (my brother) is 6'-7" and weighs about 265 -- he had to duck down *and* turn sideways to get into the bathroom! It sucked...

    What are your jamb returns? What is "causing" the tight fit?