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   dbtodd | Jan 23, 2003 06:50am | #1

   i don't know if it is to be inspected.  but if he is crotchety??  crochedy??...a pain in the #### you will need clearance floor to ceiling..  nothing above or below the panel

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   rjw | Jan 23, 2003 02:05pm | #2

   Use one of the the existing panels as a main shut off (to preserve distance requirments to the meter) and locate the 200 amp panel nearby, and the other as a junction box to reconnect/splice circuits coming from the new panel.

   Remember the 200 panel will be a sub panel, so wire it accordingly.

   You don't want to try to put 40 circuits into that small of a space

   _______________________

   "I may have said the same thing before... But my explanation, I am sure, will always be different."  Oscar Wilde

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   edlee516 | Jan 23, 2003 03:02pm | #3

   Hi Matthew  - 

   Since you didn't ask :), Toddler has it right if your area is under jurisdiction of the current version of the NEC. 

   By Art. 110.26(A.3) the height of the 3' deep working space in front of the service panel "shall be clear and extend from grade, floor or platform to the height required by 110.26(E)".   110.26(E) says that the minimum headroom required is 6-1/2' excepting an installation in an existing dwelling where the switch size doesn't exceed 200a.  Then the panel is permitted in a space that is less than the 6-1/2' minimum.

   What this translates as is: no sewer pipe allowed under the panel.

   Ed 

   
   

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   Edited 1/23/2003 7:05:13 AM ET by Ed

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   rjw | Jan 23, 2003 03:19pm | #4

   depends on if that waste line is against the wall.  If so, probably OK (but up to the local AHJ)_______________________

   "I may have said the same thing before... But my explanation, I am sure, will always be different."  Oscar Wilde

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   Matthew | Jan 23, 2003 04:17pm | #5

   The service will be inspected. The electrician I am using actually came recommemeded from the inspector (I figured he was the best person to ask if I wanted an electricial that followed code). He will have no problem getting the bump out approved.

   The sewer line is 4ft off the gound on two adjacent walls, so I would have to move panel to the opposite side of the house to clear it. I don't think I can use existing panel to feed the new one since the old one is not rated for 200A. I suppose I could put in a disconnect where the original panel was then run the new panel as a sub panel. He mentioned I could move meter to opposite corner of the house, but that is starting to sound expensive.

   It all started out when I wanted to paint the dining room, then as I was filling cracks in the plaster discovered it was knob and tube. Turned off circuit and found that it controlled more than half the house. So the electrician came to give an estimate to rewire entire house (3 floors plus basement).

   I thought code required that a bathroom light and outlet be on separate circuits. He mentioned he could wire a single 3rd floor bath on a single circuit, is this correct?

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   bearmon | Jan 23, 2003 07:30pm | #6

   3rd floor bath, single circuit for light & outlet 

   Yes, if 20A and nothing else is on it.Bear

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   Piccioni | Jan 24, 2003 08:28pm | #7

   You might look at Cutler Hammer. They have these doubly whammy plug in breakers that you can fit two breakers in the space of 1 or 4 in the space of 2 for 220 volts or 110/220 volts circuits. I don't have one in front of me, but I suspect that if you use a C-H panel and those C-H breakers, 24" should be doable.

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   TheOldCynic | Jan 25, 2003 08:00am | #8

   Does your electrician / inspector / local code have any problem installing that panel on the horizontal instead of the vertical?

   (And is that thinking outside of the box?)

   Doc - The Ol Cynic

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   user-441621 | Jan 25, 2003 03:31pm | #9

   i had this problem once. just put up a small wall in front of the pipe.  it will be alot cheaper than relocating circuits. and putting up a disconnect still falls under the same code as the panel. it is still considered live parts