I have something on my drawing board, and I am wondering how it might play out in reality. 9/0 ceilings on the second floor, all bedrooms and baths. Window headers have windows up with their tops in the 8/0 range, and the windows, all double hungs, come down to about 36″ off the floor. Using “standard” 80″ doors, door heads will be nominally 28″ down from ceilings versus windows at about 12″. How will this look and feel? If you have been doing a lot with 9-foot ceilings lately, please comment.
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There's been a thread here lately about door and window heights you might look for...last week or so.
Transom windows over the doors are an option or a decorative detail.
It works well as long as all the proportions in the room are appropriate. We just did some 12' and 10' ceilings, some windows with transoms, some not, and it looks great.
DRC
I like to use transoms, so the horizontal mullion is at the same level as the top of the doors. Gives some continuity, but it depends on the style of house.
Brudoggie
Here is an overhead view of my second floor. The MBR suite is two 6" steps up from the hallway area adjacent, and has 8/0 ceilings with a tray vault up to 9/0 in the MBR. You can see the BR1, BR2, and BR3 rooms, and bath, all with the high windows and shorter doors, ceilings being at 9/0 in those spaces. I don't plan horizontal trim lines at window or door heads, and this pic makes me think I'm OK with the concept. Comments?
Are you sure you can get the sheqar bracing you need with so many windows tucked tight to the corners?.
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"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
Who knows, Piffin? These architects all must think that the wind never blows, that the life of the house will be lived in conditions that look like the photos in the magazines. I have done two before like this from architect's plans, both having banks of windows coming tight to corners. Their drawings in both cases showed stud corners at stud widths, allowing for no jacks. We built them, and they are still standing, and the first has experienced some microburst storms with quite heavy winds. I poked around looking for cracks in the drywall that might have indicated racking, but haven't seen any so far. I am a structural engineer, and of course have concerns. But everyone likes that Frank Lloyd Wright look, lotsa glass, minimal posts. This current project in planning is a house by a Newport, RI, architect, and was originally framed up with 2x4s. It has been standing for a few years now. We have to frame with 2x6s here. They get any storms down Newport way?
I'm up the coast in Maine a few hundred miles from there and we get 80 - 90 MPH winds once or twice a year so it wouldn't suprise me..
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Our area sees winds of 70 or so occasionally, and the local officials have no problem w/ corner windows, using a 4x4 as the corner post. I trimmed out one such (an architect's own house) last year, and liked the look enough to do it in my own new house. Shear loading doesn't appear to be an issue, though in the case of my house, it may help that I have a steel substructure to support four Fallingwater-like cantilevers. Code-wise, we're still under UBC 97, if that makes a difference.
Gene,
You have some good advice in the preceding posts, however let me make a suggestion providing your budget can handle it. Use 8' doors. I did a high-end home that way and it really looks sharp. It is definitely more expensive for the doors though as they usually need to be upgraded from 1 3/8" to 1 3/4" , an extra hinge is required, they are not run of the mill production items etc. If you can afford it though it is the way to go.
Mark
My first house, a 1929 bunglow, had 8' window heads and 7' door heads. It looked fine. A more traditional craftsman style bunglow would have aligned door and window heads and used a moulding running around the room that connected all of the heads.
My 1926 house has 9' ceilings, and a big decorative cornice and picture rail all around. Windows and doors are at the usual 7' level, and the cornice keeps it from looking like there's too much wall above them. It also makes a nice big space to run conduit without hacking up the top plates.
-- J.S.
I frame for a couple high end contractors here in Idaho who use 9 ft. ceilings quite a bit. The popular window of the moment seems to be a 3x5 or 3x6. These contractors usually have me place the window top closer to 7 ft. It makes it easier to run 24 inch eaves without crowding the window to the soffit. The roof pitches are generally 6/12 to 8/12. We are not exactly in a banana belt, but the climate is moderate. The contractors in this area use 7/16 OSB for sub-siding all over the house, so putting large amounts of windows doesn't seem to affect the shear value of the wall.
Thanks to all who responded. What I think I'll do is shop-build two-lite transoms to go atop each of the bedroom, bath, and hallway doors, and in the bedrooms, for the closets, install two-door cubbie cabinets above each closet, matching width of the doors below. All of my top casings will be at the same elevation, and things will look proportional. I decided this after going to my supplier and getting a very pricey story about 8/0 doors.