Well, it’s almost done…
I’m gonna post a few picts, even tho I ran out of siding to finish – the way I work it it’ll be a few months before I lumberjack and saw –
A while back Jim Blodgett started a thread on window building 53734.1 that was a tremendous help in designing this unit –
the frame material is black walnut, most from a tree I felled and ‘wood-mizered’ – some from barn salvage aquired several years ago –
there are operable ‘storm’ shutters, walnut board and white oak batten construction – they operate smoothly and should make it easy to live with the single glazed (refurbished/salvage) sash –
it’s been hard to get a good picture inside – it ended up a little fancier than I originally envisioned – I used up a highly figured maple board I’d been setting on for years – it provides a lot of contrast (maybe too much) with the walnut – I believe it will mellow nicely in a year or three –
what was formerly a blind south wall is now a source of light and ventilation – it’s gonna be real easy to get used to –
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Yeah man, that is way cool.
Having had the pleasure of knowing where that is, I gotta say, you are gonna be loving it more every day.
Can't rush beauty.
Now I know why ya gave me a hard time about hinges! LOL geeze, ya think they're big enough there? (G)
Really, that is cool look.
Nice work.
Black Walnut is one of my favorite woods. Good rot resistance. What kind of finishes did you use? Is it the same for int. and ext.?
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
What kind of finishes did you use? Is it the same for int. and ext.?
hi steve - thanks -
the finish is boiled linseed oil on all surfaces - the frame has had two coats - I built it in the shop, then disassembled and oiled all surfaces -
the siding and such get one coat - slopped on, let set, wipe off before things get gummy - easily refreshed if desired - I pretty much plan to let the outside weather now - if a few years it'll gain weathered walnut character that is so pretty -
I've seen walnut sided barns that have weathered 100+ years - the walnut erodes, but doesn't rot, gaining tremendous character - "there's enough for everyone"
I have to pay $5,50 cdn a board foot for that stuff!!!!!
Makes great pepper grinders!"No doubt exists that all women are crazy; it's only a question of degree." - W.C. Fields
I have to pay $5,50 cdn a board foot for that stuff!!!!!
a few years ago I could have made some smart-azzed comment about that being cheap firewood - but no more...
the tree the frame and siding came from (the shutter boards are from a salvaged grainery from a barn) would have fetched about $100 from a timber buyer - a mediocre speciman by generous grading -
hmm...how much vinyl siding do you get for $100? <g> -
anyway - come visit sometime, take home some 'exotic' hardwood -
"there's enough for everyone"
hey, Duane -
the hinges you can see have been floating around here for years - they are just the right size - then I had to bi-fold - looking thru the inventory revealed nothing inspiring - stop at one of the local building supplies for something non related, looked at their clearance rack, and there was a whole box of 8" straps - half price - tag had $4.35 each - got the box @ $2 each - got the L-pins for the latch and the small straps they slide thru out of the same pile - 5/16" hooks - I loaded up on a bunch of 'National' hardware for $62 total -
thanks - View Image
"there's enough for everyone"
Nice. Thanks for the batten detail. I'd wondered how you were dealing with wood movement.
Have fixed several exterior shutters here where the designer apparently forgot they were dealing with wood. Walnut's my preferred shutter wood also. Mine's all come from logs that a mill wouldn't want. Last tree that was blown down yielded nearly 500 bd ft, with careful sawing.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!
Thanks for the batten detail. I'd wondered how you were dealing with wood movement.
ya - I basically copied the construction of various vintage B&B doors I use/have in inventory -
the three boards that make the shutter are 10"-6"-10" to make the 26" width of the panels - I like to use a tougher wood for the battens than used in the panels, so white oak it was - View Image
I pulled the tongue and groove panels semi-tight together with bar clamps, then released the tension, leaving the clamp with just enough pressure to keep things from moving as I screwed - I don't expect that swelling/shrinking will create any real issues - the T&G design is such that the front is 'tight' and the back not - if it swells much I don't think there could be enough compression as to warp the battens -
- no glue, I oiled the back of the battens and the area of the panel before assembly - torx head deck screws every 1.5" or so (a modern substitute for the nails in the vintage doors) -
routed the hinge straps flush with batten for a slim profile, tho I still had to bore a recess in the window frame where the bolt head interfered when the shutters are shut - View Image
"there's enough for everyone"
Man that is nice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPONTneuaF4
Beeeeeeyooty !!!!
That is great.
And you have just inspired me, as well. So the inspiration worked it's way from the wet coast, to my old home state, and back here to the wet coast...
;o)
I am in the process of moving a huge 5th wheel trailer. Once I get it moved and set, I'll have to clean it up and start rebuilding it.
Although 'siding' is a looooong way off, I have already decided to get rid of the metal that they manufactured the RV with.
Manufacturers are now putting out park model RV's and even some regular 5th wheel types, with clapboard siding, instead.
I figure if the mfg can... So can I.
The metal shell on the RV is the 'ultimate exterior vapor barrier', in a climate where exterior vapor barriers are very much a no-no. It's like living in a terrarium. There is simply no way to stop rot once it gets started.
The inspiration....
Well I have been trying to figure out a way to get clapboard or shiplap siding to work with the existing windows. It'll take an awful lot of work.
However... It wouldn't be so difficult with board and batten... And as you prove, it can be made to look pretty durn good !
=0)
Thank you.
That's nice looking, David, really nice. I really like the shutters. That reminds me to send you some screen hinges. We are taking this week off after Amy's wedding so I certainly have the free time. Now I just have to remember.Great looking window, though. Looks like it has always been there.Huck said it first. I just agreed with him.
ya - I noticed in another thread you mentioned the wedding -
how'd that go? <nervous g>
tho we don't have any weddings in the immediate future, but our girls have been participating in other's, ah, productions - - which have run the gamut from sensible, with a nod to all the traditions, to ridiculous -
E's got a serious boyfriend - his mother's family is from some serious $ - that could get interesting if it should come to be....
anyway - enjoy the afterglow - and thanks for the help - overt and covert - we took one butt ugly wall and made it presentable - better late than never -
regards to Kathy and the rest of your family from ours - D
oh, ya - check out the picture in my reply to steven - <g>
edit to add: did you get my snail mail address via email a while back?
"there's enough for everyone"
Edited 7/30/2007 11:58 pm by DavidxDoud
The wedding was great - on the beach, lots of folks in floral outfits, less than 50 people total, intimate, sweet. Beautiful day all 'round. The three days of dinners/parties/house guests before and after the actual wedding were a bt overwhelming, but I'm glad we supported Chris and Amy's visions. They are a great young couple who we enjoy immensly. All in all I'd say it was one of the high points of our family history.
Your snail mail address? Yes. I got it a couple months ago and procrastinated away the days. I will do my best to get you a package this week though.
Off to the darkroom.Huck said it first. I just agreed with him.
Slacker. Get back to work.
Glad to hear all is well in Blodgett land.It's not too late, it's never too late.
David, that is nice, and a great use for walnut. I like the valance/fascia, cool touch.For over 25 years, I've been sitting about 700bd' I picked up when we lived in Virginny. They were logging Ashlawn, James Monroe's plantation, for poplar. No one wanted the cedar and walnut! I may have to look at the stash a little more<G>Hey, I got a hold of Wood Mizer, and got turned on to a mill about 3 miles from where those hickories a laying...they'll be a whole lotta hammer handles<G> Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess.
They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy,
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky.
I'm sure you've all been wondering -
I did get it finished -
casements and shutters work as easily now as ten months ago -
the wall/shutters are beginning to acquire some character from the exposure - only negative is some deterioration of the bottom row of glazing compound - guess I should have painted it -
View Image"there's enough for everyone"
Is that Camden Green on the trim?
it's a Sturbridge Village color - 'Fenno Green' IIRC - I had the local paint purveyor match it in latex - that and 'Old Tavern Yellow' from the same source, along with an almost white are the stock colors of the farm - and I guess the red on the barn...which needs attention - you know anything about stain? - "there's enough for everyone"
There's a builder's forum where all these builder's from all over the place get on there and talk shop.
You have a question about stain you can just put in on there and they'll tell you all you need to know.
It's called Breaktime from that FineHomebuilding magazine they sell at the home center stores.
Click here for access to the Woodshed Tavern
Click here to visit the beginning of Breaktime
Edited 5/27/2008 11:51 am ET by rez
Don't they let non-professionals actually post on that forum? How do you know whom to trust for advice?
"There's a builder's forum..."ya - but I'm just a dumb farmer - that's why I thought I'd ask you about the stain - seein' yer not a pro or anything...."there's enough for everyone"
All I know is I used a darker green oil based stain on a vinyl covered wood framed half round window facing the west
that has had no change except received spider poop and a slight fading over the last 7-8 years.
That and I still think oil beats latex at the game.
Nice touch with the fascia and flower box scallops.
Iffn ya use azek strips for glazing stops, you won't have to reputty. I'm hooked on it.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations
New book alert; Eckhart Tolle "A new earth"
A must read.
somehow the idea of plastic strips ageing better than putty seems unlikely to me - I suppose you could paint it - do you caulk it in?is glazing putty suppose to be painted?"there's enough for everyone"
Yes, and Yes.
Putty needs to cure some ( after skin-over) two weeks or more, depending on brand and type of paint.
If azek is to stay white, I don't see why it would not outlast putty, I have not yet had an instance that it would have to be painted a dark color. That may be an issue to keep in mind.
I caulk the stops in with Big Stretch it seems to work well with the glass and the azek.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations
New book alert; Eckhart Tolle "A new earth"
A must read.
hey Jeff - good to hear you upbeat -
B&B is traditional for small cabins - it'll look good in your woods - you may have trouble with having nailers for it, tho -
"there's enough for everyone"
Really really nice David...Did you do the shutters just for asthetics sake or you spectin' injuns...lol. What ever the reason I love it!!
Its also nice to see the other pictures of where you live not to mention your saw millizer. Ever tie up a person and feed em' into that thing like in the cartoons...lol...betcha thought of it though : )
how it sounds^-->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2shskL0AYuE
http://WWW.CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Did you do the shutters just for asthetics sake or you spectin' injuns
well, the 'injuns' are friendly herebouts - I hope we can remain in that relationship -
I hope the shutters are utilitarian - I worked hard to make them easy to use - when it's cold or hot or storming, it's literally a 30 second operation to shut them - several big windows in this house, big f####g cold windows in the winter - I have been known to screw a sheet of foam over those cold radiators - what a difference it makes comfortwise in the house - the asthetics of that leave a lot to be desired, and the convenience factor is nil -
thinking now that I've dealt with the prototype, I'll get into the shutter business for some other openings this winter -
"there's enough for everyone"
Now those are proper hinges. Swiss chalet look to the place.
Saw an episode of American Heartland or Heartland Highways (one or the other) that mentioned Indiana is a farm-lumber state. I hadn't realized.
jt8
"Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Edited 7/31/2007 11:36 am by JohnT8
Edited 7/31/2007 11:37 am by JohnT8