Many of you will have noticed the mess that has been made of this forum this afternoon all the result of a Troll that continues to plague and spoil what is otherwise a great place. So I am reduced to begging for your help. Please Please Please ignore this Troll, don’t respond and don’t start threads to this troll because it will only lengthen the time in which this troll survives. We are working on a permanent solution but in the meantime I will need your help so if you don’t want to end up with a fully moderated forum then lets all just ignore this Troll. Thanks SYSOP
SYSOP
[email protected]
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Done.
I'd be all for a moderated forum if it would get rid of the troll.
Anyone who says he can see through women is missing a lot.
Thank you.
But honey, I can make money if I had just one more tool. Really.
LOL!!! One of the best tag lines I've seen!Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
thanks. My wife saw it a few days ago and now she's onto me. :)But honey, I can make money if I had just one more tool. Really.
Question, everytime I ignore the troll, log out and log back in, the ignore function is no longer active ( I must reignore). Is this the way the system is designed, or am I doing something wrong?
BTW, thanks for recognizing the troll for who he really is.
" the ignore function is no longer active ( I must reignore)"
That is not the problem. The few times that I have used ignore it has lasted and lasted.
I think that you are seeing is that person is being banned and then signing back up again with new userID, but the same Nick Name.
Are you hitting the apply button and do you have cookies enabled?
SamTSleepless in Columbia. Diurnal rhythm? What songs did they do?
Cookies are enabled. Where is the apply button for ignore? I usually right click on the Options link in the lower left and scroll to the Ignore Poster link. I searched the next screen, but couldn't find an apply button.
What am I missing?
I never met a tool I didn't like!
Cursor to the options tab. Left click on ignoe. The screen will wink out and be replaced with apply/continue. You should be in business.
More Info to come tomorrow morning on the state of the Troll hunt! Goodnight for now. SYSOPSYSOP[email protected]
Holy Smokes! I just had a startlin' revelation!
Remember when no one could find Brian and Larry was all over the place?
well...
... has anyone ever seen them together?
Yea, now I've got your wheels turning don't I? The old Brian myster lookin' for a little job security maybe? You don't suppose he is now upset about the transfer do you?
Hmmm... Just something for you folks to think about down there in SYSOP. :-)>Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Kevin,
GO TO BED! Your brain cells are doing overtime! LOL! I came on here to get away from stress and I see this Boss Hog crap. I have NO IDEA what is going on. Last I was on here I saw Larry and Andy C. actually getting along. Guess I have been working too hard at the hospital. Things sure to go awreck here while I am gone. Get some sleep. Maybe we will all wake up to a new forum.Tamara
The hot TX sun and Kevin are at odds.
Things sure to go awreck here while I am gone.
Now that we really know what happened. Don't go away any more. You are now here 24/7/365.
Deal! Catch you on the morrow...Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Last I was on here I saw Larry and Andy C. actually getting along. Guess I have been working too hard at the hospital.
Tamara,
When I was a kid in grade school in NYC I was taken by the kids that were made fun of. I sort of understood their pains. I kind of have an area inside me that is seriously bothered by insensitivity towards people that are different than the mainstream.
Those folks can either turn into people that can really help our world or really hurt us. Theyre different for one reason or another.
Antagonizing and poking fun is .....well.....you figure it out.
Same with individuals within different cultures, countries, religions....so on and so forth.
I "did" try with Larry but failed. OK so we made peace with one another but that wasn't what I went in there for...I went in there to try and help us all......him, us, me....to no avail obviously.
Yet so many people here were close to no better than him by fanning the fire...antagonizing him...calling him out.
who cares about the "ignore" feature here.
Personally..I just never acknowlege his posts anymore....simple as that.
Wouldn't ya say?
Be a poster...not postal person
Be more in control people
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
they got more important things to think about like black helo's and spandex body suits, for their on going plot to rule the world, ask piffin, he's in on it
;)Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
Cag if theese guys start wearing spandex of any color I'm out of here. I can't begin to think of what would happen to my eyes were I to see this.
thanks buddy, your trash can must be full.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Calvin,
At thispoint it is more like my dumpster is full, but the garbage men are on there way to empty it.SYSOP[email protected]
Andy - "Hi Cal. Thanks. It's nothing personal, but I'm back mostly because Brian and Jim are on the road."
SYSOP - "At thispoint it is more like my dumpster is full, but the garbage men are on there way to empty it."
Ok, so maybe I was a bit imaginative last night but you have to admit that these two statements in successive order do lend themselves to speculation. You don't suppose it's gonna be a rowdy day in Hagerstown today do you?Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Can someone explain to me what lit up this troll? Or did he have prior issues, got whacked, and signed up under a new name to trash BossHog? I don't follow the non-construction folders very much, so the Republican-Democrat thing is just not my bag man.
Regards,
Boris
"Sir, I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow" -- WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
It isn't so much Republican vs. Democrat as it is sane vs. insane.
Basically, as I understand it, he was banned forever and a day ago for repeatedly breaking several forum rules. He has been coming back picking fights ever since as a means of revenge. His beef is primarily with Taunton but several of us have allowed our tempers to pull us into his little game of Bobcat and mouse.
Boss and CAG just happened to respond to his antagonism at the right moment to become specific targets but it could have been any number of us, myself included.Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
There isn't any "reason" involved, but I guess if you can believe the most often stated motivation there is a concerted effort among the management and members to ruin our deranged friend. Boss has nothing to do with it, anyone could be his focus of the day.
This has been going on for quite some time, and here is as good a reason as any.
How's come this high priced Prospero set up can't handle something like this?
With all the "You'll get used to it" features of Prospero, shouldn't they have some means of keeping this looney out?
Joe H
We do have means, and we've been escalating them for months. What we're doing now should work. Please e-mail us if any of you have trouble posting.
Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
Tried it, but I don't get an apply/continue screen. Just a screen that states 'Troll has been added to your ignore list', or words to that effect.
That's okay. Computer took a shot some months back, I can no longer save hyper links and paste them, and the Breaktime icon is now a generic MSExplorer icon instead of that silly abstract face.
Time to format the old HDD and reload.
Well, maybe in the winter when things aren't so busy.
Thanks for your help.
I never met a tool I didn't like!
TOO COOL.
I use "advanced view" and don't have an "Options" tab or button..I checked "Basic View" and did not see one there either.
What I do have is at the bottom of the post texts frame (Right hand frame) are three check marks to rate my interest, one of which is "Ignore" and an "Apply" button to set it.
I am running Windows 98 and EI 5.5, maybe that makes a difference?????
SamTSleepless in Columbia. Diurnal rhythm? What songs did they do?
I run Windows ME, in advanced view. At the bottom of the thread is a box with three buttons to rate my interest. The box also has links for all the message numbers in the thread.
But still no apply/continue.
I never met a tool I didn't like!
Here's why. He's been locked out under that name, but logged back in under a new identity, keeping the old nickname. Ignore only looks at the identity, not the nickname. Last night, we took some fairly harsh steps that should put an end to this balderdash. Thanks all for your patience. More information to come.
Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
Hey guys, let's get real for a minute.
I appreciate the time, effort, and costs that are being suffered by the staff and Taunton as a whole. When Andy says, "fairly harsh steps," I interpret that as expensive.
I'm signing up right now to both FH and FWW. And buying that CD.
We gotta support these efforts by the Breaktime staff.
Extending existing subscriptions would help.
>I interpret that as expensive.
My guess is legal. 'Course, that's the same as expensive. There have got to be some denial-of-service or interference-with-trade or FCC-originated laws being violated. Wonder if you can get a court order to keep someone away from an internet site, as you can keeping them from a physical site...kinda like No Trespassing. Hmmm...
That's a fantastic idea! I just got my renewal notice in the mail last week. I guess it's time to order that CD too.
I had been thinking about a small subscription price to post here more than three times a day. That way, a visitor can get a question answered for free and everyone can read along, but the troll would be out a lot of money and he'd have to wait for validation every time he tried to get in..
Excellence is its own reward!
Boris,
This looney has been kick out of the JLC site for the same thing before he came here. But he found his way here and much like dry rot hes hard to get rid of him cuz I think he justs enjoys the heck out of it. Where most of the people like you and I come here relax and enjoy each others cyber friendships this guy just gets off P-ing people off for what ever reason.
Darkworks: No Guns No Butter squilla and the bling bling.
Could you afford that? (;~))
I was thinking something small like ten or fifteen bucks a head per year. That would run into several hundred for the troll, and help Taunton pay for the time to moderate..
Excellence is its own reward!
Other than that, it's not a bad idea. Even for those of us that spend too much time here as it is.
I wonder if Andy will send me a hat like the rest of you insiders now that I spent $700 on subscriptions and stuff.
Probably not, half of it was on FWW stuff. I think those guys are in a different building.
I had been thinking about a small subscription price to post here more than three times a day.
Piffin!!! plaese NO.
I've used all my savings now and sold my car. Breaktime is the only pleasure I have room for in my cancerous schedule of expenses.
SamTSleepless in Columbia. Diurnal rhythm? What songs did they do?
Of course, under this proposal, there would be scholarships for students, discounts for seniors, Fellowships for fellows, welfare subsidies for leftists, etc. untill only a few subscribers and taunton would shoulder the load..
Excellence is its own reward!
pif, just a suggestion. Why not charge the republican conservatives. They have all the answers, all the money and there's millions of them.
hahahaRemodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Say, you're not alluding to some other system are you??? ;)Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a carpenter to build one.
Good to have you back, bad this was the reason.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Hi Cal. Thanks. It's nothing personal, but I'm back mostly because Brian and Jim are on the road.
Once again, thanks to all who've stuck with us through this mess. Your loyalty means a lot.
Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
Like we've got somewhere better to go<G> You guys have put up with some wild stuff over the years, and, have happily, left the joint unmoderated. And, you still let most of us reprobates keep posting..are you nuts?
Anyway, I'm thinking the one who's name which should not be mentioned had some help, someone who knows something about computers. Mac people are out, we're much too fruity, but what was Looka doing on the afternoon of the 8th? Oh, the sweet revenge...LOL
But hey, they place cleaned up real nice<G> EliphIno!
Andy,
Hmmmm: First you mention that you are taking "drastic measures" then you let on that you need to have your dumpster emptied. What really happened to the troll?
I think there's some freshly poured cement someplace.
"I think there's some freshly poured cement someplace."
We can only hope....................(-:Larry's village called - Said they're missing their idiot.
"Last night, we took some fairly harsh steps that should put an end to this balderdash. "
That should give cause for pause. <G>
I bet this guy woke up with a horse head in his bed or something like that.
DRC
Subscribers are registered with name and address, so we should be able to do more than one post per day. Just one post per day for non-subscribers. This will discourage trolls
Not a bad idea. Not bad at all.
Mike
It would also discourage and new people from interacting here then BECOMING subscribers to the magazine. I know I wouldn't want to hang around if I was only allowed to post once a day.
Actually, the changed they made must have worked. No problems for at least 24 hours...........Military Rule #26: When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
I was kinda thinkin the same thing, but I wasn't attached to allowing only 1 post. Maybe 3/day? The limitation might well motivate more subscribers.
Mike
Military Rule #26: When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
Were you a JCO at one time?
Don't really know what a "JCO" is........Military justice is to justice what military music is to music.
Lt or Captain.
Nope - I was just a grunt in the Army.We have women in the military, but they don't put us in the front lines. They don't know if we can fight, if we can kill. I think we can. All the general has to do is walk over to the women and say, "You see the enemy over there? They say you look fat in those uniforms." - Elayne Boosle
Change the site rules to include responding to distasteful posts as grounds for suspension of priviliges. Then when you determine that a post or poster is not welcome at this site, ban the rest.
It would be kind of like policing ourselves in that we would have to decide if responding to someone was worth getting suspended.
Although I may have engaged in the little post wars at one time, it didn't take me long to realize pointless it is. There are plenty of people here who like to throw fuel on the fire and they are equally responsible for some of the goings on of late.
I like to read all of the posts, but you have to restrain yourself from responding to some of them.
Tom
Totaly agreed. A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
The colorful discussions appear to me to be confined to specific threads. They don't pull down the overall board because they don't affect the overall set of messages. And no, I am not blind to the aggressive distastefulness in some of those postings.
At this moment the message boards have been "hijacked." They're covered with a dozens of of copies of the same message basically rendering the message board useless. So maybe I was wrong in what I said earlier.
Glad you saw that. I was going to reply to your first message when I got through reading all of them, then saw where you came to your senses. Stupid, isn't it?Do it right, or do it twice.
Thank you - and appologies for spilling a little fuel here and there myself. What can I say, I'm a kid at heart and I've allways gotten a kick out of watching stuff blow up. It's easy to forget that important things get damaged every time it happens.
That's how I wrecked my angle in the first place?
Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
I'll be back when this mess gets cleaned up.
Good luck!
Ignor what? EliphIno!
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I haven't posted to the 'cat for quite a while, and won't (assuming I know it's him). Thanks for your efforts to to keep the forum a more sane place to hang out!
Sorry I posted the "Pluck Yew" title. I didn't realize that it might be out-of-bounds. I'll try to be more "tasteful"(?). Please e-mail me directly if I post anything of concern to SYSOP in the future.
AND, MY APOLOGIES TO TAUNTON AND ALL REGULAR FORUM PARTICIPANTS for getting caught up & carried away at times... And especially to the regulars for being patient with my questions and inexperience.
It's only been about six months since I first logged on to any forum or really started to use the computer for anything but e-mail and word processing. Back in late winter/early spring, right when I was just trying to figure out what this place is all about, the forum often seemed like kind of a wide open free-for-all of accusations, mud slinging, complaints, and BS. I guess it's my nature, when I step into such an environment, to jump right into the fray!
I'm still learning what the limits of this place might be.
This is a terrific place! Hope it keeps on that way.
Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a carpenter to build one.
ok so what just happened?
went to log in and got some thing i had to agree to, which i did, and then it took me to prospero?
i assume this is part of what's happened, but what's happening?
bobl Volo Non Voleo
Me too... It must be the happening, or resurection.
You gots to behave now.
We have to behave now?
Oh man, am I screwed!
Behave? Only as you have in the past, with a few exceptions...
SYSOP[email protected]
Edited 7/10/2003 4:46:02 PM ET by SYSOP
Heheheh... with a few exceptions he says... Hahahahoho...
Sometimes poking a poster you know in the ribs is kinda fun but it can be misinterpreted by others.
So SYSOP, what happens if I call Matt something like CutieMeg and he dopeslaps both of us into the eternal abyss of Taunton's long forgottens?
Is there an appellate court in place to redeem ourselves from banishment if we just have a bad day? This forum won't be near as entertaining if we have to behave all the time. :-)> Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
Qmeg gets tied around your ankels and then it's the plank.
Call Qtr buttercup, or hot-cakes, or sweet buns, or pookie, I hear that's what his wife calls him.
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
<shaking my head>
I am so screwed.
Ok, I can be nice, I can be nice, I can be nice...
Uh ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, (where's the damn tipi when you need one?)
dude you don't need the tipi, you need the smoke coming out of the top, it will really calm you donw.........from what I hearNever be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
Ahahahahahehehe... Qtrmeg.... with a few exceptions he says.... HAHAHAHAH!!! Oh, man... it's killing me.
Dude, just log off now and save the pain of it all... Go backbutter an 18" tile on a client's troubled shower wall or something. Make sure you take your number one helper Larry in case you have to shave a newel with a chisel or something - and hey, don't forget your illuminated hard hat! Never know when one of those dopeslaps is gonna come back to haunt you.
Ahahahahahehehe... Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
You really don't think I can be nice, but I can. Hey, I remember this time, I was but a wee child, and I think I was nice then?
Oh, ok, that was someone else...
Ahahahahahahaha... ROFLSMKHMSWTSDMC!!!!
(rolling on the floor laughing- slapping my knee- holding my side- with tears streaming down my cheeks)Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
No, you just have to rely on the discretion of us moderators. And given that we're utterly reasonable types whose judgement is beyond question, you should no worries whatsoever.
<G>
Andy Engel, The Former Accidental Moderator
I see you guys have already edited a couple of my emotional outbursts before I could get back to them so I'll second that recommendation. I'm still here and all cleaned up!
;).
Excellence is its own reward!
You clean up nice!
Gabe
Oh, you've seen my new picture in my profile then, eh?.
Excellence is its own reward!
You are in such deep sssss.... now. At least you'll be standing on Qtrmeg's shoulders.
Am I the exception.......please??????
I been good for so long now....its startin' to hurt...lol
a
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
It oughta hurt....you are real pain in the butt LMHO EliphIno!
bucky........I'm still lookin for help..Imerg seems to be busy teaching his tribe english and Neil (Cag) is still doin' homework......geeeeeeezzzzzzz
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Imerg is it? Even the tribe knows better than that and they are just savages.
For what you offered in pay I'm better off teaching us savages some English. I'll make more donating my time, energies, books, pencils, paper and the school room. I'll probably be really in the black if I throw in out of pocket bus service and pay CAG to take 2nd shift.
AND snail mail you some schoolin' books from CAG.
I keep the Marm.
Be native
Be savage
Edited 7/12/2003 1:41:34 AM ET by IMERC
I got some old spelling books if you'd like ;) IMERC
unless you just mis-typed in which case I got some of those books on typing as well :)
I don't know, Kansas defiantly has to go, but New York? Only driven through it once, so I can't say, but seems a bit crowded for my personal taste.Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic.
I don't know, Kansas defiantly has to go, but New York? Only driven through it once, so I can't say, but seems a bit crowded for my personal taste.
Neil 4,
You just need a native (no, not IMERC..lol) tour guide to turn you on to NY.
My guess is you might just wanna make it home after I get through showing you around town.
I usually stay out of the crowded tourist traps. I know all the best hidden places. You'd definatly have a blast....and hey, I'm only about 45 min. from NYC and its quiet and beautiful round my hood.
anytime you need a place to stay with an added tour just give me a shout...
E-mail me in advance.
IMERC: From another thread you wrote in...yeh..E-mails..lucky me..ugh.
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Worked in Willisston. Stayed in Center and North Ports.
NY is not.... And that was 30+ ago.
IMERC
you were in Williston, L.I?
And Northport and Centerport, L.I ?
Centerport and northport is a five minute drive from me.
small world, huh?
a
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Worked in Williston after leaving IBM and lived in Centerport and Northport. Kept the boat in Northport. Spent a lot of time in the City.
Went to school at Nassau.
Mugged in Jamacia. Well attempted mugging. The best defense is a strong defense. It must have been my attitude I got from having to wear a 3 piece suit. Suprised the crap outta him.
I kept telling you this.... Just woke up ?
You can have NYS, NYC, & LI. The nerve of them calling that parking lot the L.I. Express Way.
Well.......still say its a small world.......I rarely use 495.
I've worked my way up to working mostly where I live. On my own homes with a few outside gigs to help pay the bills. Only took me 28 years of working for customers to get to this point.
I dbl'd my money twice doing that.
Its a great feeling to know you can work on your own house and make a whole lot more money doing that then working for customers.
Isn't NAssau Community 13th grade...lol..kidding.
I saw lots of great concerts there about 30 years ago. Mahavishnu Orchrestra was one I remember.
My best friends that were originally from LAwrence KAnsas moved here to LI many moons ago and now live in NYC running a very well know private school...They also have a house up in Maine (Brunswick)near Freeport for the quick geta way.
Just got an Email from them.theyre unexpectidly touring Colorado by car...thought of you. I think theyre near Aspen today.
BE well chief
baba andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
I dbl'd my money twice doing that.
No wonder you pay so low. You keep it for yourself.
Isn't NAssau Community 13th grade...lol..kidding.
K1. Andy the 60's fog is creeping back in.
Also lived in Kingston, Fishkill, Plattsburg, Tri Cities, Kirkwood, Greene, Ithaca and Elmira. mostly college and IBM.
Not to mention Mystic, New Haven, Pittsfield. Born in Cranston, RI. Lived in Providence in the early years
I remember from 40/ 50 years ago. Visited since then. I'll stay here thank you.
I lived in woodstock, West Saugraties, Lovingston Virginia, Berkely, Cal
Colorado, Ann Arbor Mich, Quebec, Lower East side NY, Long Beach, NY...Sandusky Ohio ( interesting story there...lol), Topeka Kansas,,another interesting story....and the list goes on.....I do have to say though, Colorado was my favorite state hands down!!!!
Far as Greene County.I spent two weeks in jail there....was like being in Any of Mayberry's jail.....lol. And I wasn't guilty ......yeh yeh
a
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Expand the topography you say.....
CT, NH, MA, VT, MN, RI, PA, NY, WI, MI, MT, CO, WA, OR, CA, TX, LA, FL. GA, HA, Japan, Viet Nam, Greece, Turkey, Italy, W Germany, Venezuela, Brazil, Chile, Uraguay.
The only continet I have left is Australia.
Antarctica.
Excellence is its own reward!
Stopped in for week while in Chile.
Where ever I was, went to where ever I could get to. No nieghboring country was safe. Made all 50 states. All of Europe and so on. Only put down where I lived even if it was briefly. Had to be months or more.
And the winner is?
I've never left this country but no side road has been safe from me.
Hmmmm....
Sounds like an interesting thread soon to come..
Excellence is its own reward!
Forget the home improvement show. I want to see an Andy and IMERC road show! Why don't one or the other of you yahoos start a "craziest thing that ever happened to me in a foreign country" thread. I anxiously await your entertaining prose...Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
IMERC
Well, haven't been outta this country other than Canada. Never really had a hankerin' to.
My trips across this country were mostly when I was in my teens hitchiking.
You get to "really" see the country that way and really meet the peeps. Not to mention all the adventures. I probably stayed in every state at least a few days.
Sandusky Ohio was the longest stay besides California. Kind of a weird stay in Sandusky..about a month with a group of bikers and their girlfriends, Good group of peeps that I had met individually in other states as well later on by coincidence like outside of Boulder Colo. up top some mtn in an open kinda funky amper theater at a concert.
Had a great stay in Taos for many weeks with the Hog Farm....the little I can remember of that stay...lol....months in Tennesse with Stephen on "The Farm" with his wife Inna May.....Started an alternative school in Nelson county Virgina..was there a long time....Saw the inside of the Bekely jail for many days during The Peoples Park Riots... also was a carp in the Berkely Hills for a spell.
Saw the inside of the Cook County jail in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention.....as well as the inside of the Tombs here in NY dudring the Columbia College riots (now thats a reallyyy nasty jail....geezzz and I missed Woodstock?(musta been in jail that week..lol)...althoughhhhhhhh I did spend time in Greene County jail and lets not speak about almost four months in Nassau County jail twice (once as a wayward minor, a run a way and once for sales and possesion of hash and acid,,cept I didn't sell it.I gave it away for free) that was after many months staying up in Millbrook with Tim.....Seems those counter culture days started really adding up for my reume'....lolo, yeh now that I think about it, how bout when I ..........
Be incarcerated
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Edited 7/13/2003 9:43:06 AM ET by Andy Clifford(Andybuildz)
Andy,
Steve Sloan or Denny Geiger at the Farm? Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Cal,
Never heard of them......Stephen Gaskin was the guy that started The Farm...you can find their site if you Google it.
I was there when everyone got arrested (of course) for growing fields of marijuana. Everyone was let off by the way.
Be sativa
a
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
You ever make it to Trinidad Colorado? Home of Drop city and a bunch of other communes? I spent about a month working there about six or seven years ago. The one local guy I was working was raised on land right next to it. He was about 11 or 12 at the height of it's heyday. He thought it was cool, naked girls skinny dipping. There's still a couple of multi colored domes around.Who Dares Wins.
gunner,
Nope..never saw that place. was more into what a friend of mine that I met at the LSD Center in NYC ( Ken K.) spoke to me about (League for Spiritual Discovery)...Tim's place on the Wst side of the Village here in NYC.....He gave me a map and some names (Emmet Grogan was the main man I met up with....check him out in google if he's even there....and I just stuck out my thumb.....no kidding!
Be ,,,,,,,just be.
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
My best buddy here was a little kid when his mom moved to Drop City. He grew up in various communes all the way through high school and became a very good carpenter/contractor. Several of those Drop City people moved a little northwest and settled at communes called Libre, AAA, and Red Rocks, all west of I-25 in the Huerfano River valley. Drop City is gone now, but the three Huerfano communes are still here. Now euphemistically referred to as "Artists Communities"!
I asked the undersheriff if it's true that they fly straight out that direction when they get their annual day or two with a Guard helicopter to look for dope growers. He said, "Of course it's true!", but went on to say that the primary drug traffic in Colorado is amoung the wealthy resort area folks nowdays.
One of the local "old hippie" crowd was G. W. Bush's college roommate. Rumor has it that he says dubya was a sober serious student with a deep seated desire to help the poor and downtrodden... (Ya, right!) ;)Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a carpenter to build one.
Yeah right !
You see what too many years of smoking that weed can do to a person's memory.
; ) A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
Andy,
I wonder if you and I haven't almost met beefore. I was at the Farm for a few days in '71 and lived in Taos for about 6-7 months. I think that was '71 or '72..
Excellence is its own reward!
ever been in jail?...lol
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
No
Jail.
Is that the place where you get green bologna on stale bread, cold eggs and oatmeal, canned peas, and macaroni and catsup - and where the sunlight is rationed?
Do I have to admit it in public?
;).
Excellence is its own reward!
hey now that I think about it.....I think I was at The Farm in the summer of 71...hmmm
check it out ---->The Farm
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
The Farm - I was a guest of a guy who called himself Fox or Foxy, I forget which. We met in Florida. Then I ran into him again for a day in Virginia two yerars later. He had really gone downhill by then while I was starting to get it together..
Excellence is its own reward!
"CT, NH, MA, VT, MN, RI, PA, NY, WI, MI, MT, CO, WA, OR, CA, TX, LA, FL. GA, HA, Japan, Viet Nam, Greece, Turkey, Italy, W Germany, Venezuela, Brazil, Chile, Uraguay.
The only continet I have left is Australia."
Ummmm...Africa???
Easy to forget those small ones....
Rich Beckman
Another day, another tool.
Those are places I stayed / lived in / at, if only for a few months. The visit list includes Africa.
Edited 7/13/2003 11:55:06 PM ET by IMERC
Hahahaha!! Oh man, I'm picturing this scrawny Jamaican punk trying to mug Grizzly Adams! What a riot!
I'm betting there are a few scenes from your life that just might be good Oscar material. That would be one of them!
So, you wanna post a few details? I'm in the mood for a good story.Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
I was on the train outta the city at about 1 in the morning. Jamacia is a city on L.I.
It was just some scrawny sawed off pip squeak of a kid with two of his buds.
Rabbit punch to his throat and then clearly state "next"? That was the end of the issue. Ruined his week. Kept the switch blade for a suvenior. Still got it.
He was still floping like a fish when I got off the train. Nobdy else was fazed in the least. The other folks were kind enough to step over him when they got off.
" got some thing i had to agree to, which i did"
Did you read the REAL FINE PRINT?
You just agreed to send in all the money in your bank account.
If is on it's way as I write.
Well we have made some changes but that was not one of them I will look into that. Is it still happening? Try logging out then back in and let me know what goes on.
So that you all understand what we have done here it is: Every new registrants' first post goes into a queue which we will review and then approve. Yes this means that there may be a delay of up to 48 hours say on a weekend for instance. But then after the intial post has been approved the user is then able to post to there hearts content as long as they abide by the terms of service... Break the terms of service and you will never see your posts appear on the site again. It is unfortunate that we had to take such drastic measures.
If you have questions or problems posting please don't hesitate to email me. As Always you can reach me at [email protected]
For Now... SYSOP[email protected]
only happened that once
edit: it said i would get an email, but haven't yet
bobl Volo Non Voleo
Edited 7/10/2003 6:49:00 PM ET by bobl
Hey Andy, going to jail, is that anything like being mainstream? LOL
John,
well now a days it seems to be with all the blue/white collar crime.
Cept for an old hippie they stuck me in the dregs of the earth....pretty pathetic.
When I visited my daughter in S.F we went for the tour of Alcatraz.....unbelieveable how a person can live like that.....I think I understood it far better than everyone else taking the tour....seems wrong..seems a prefrontal labotomy would be more humane....
Be gettin' what yer askin' fer
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Weeeeelll...
Not exactly.
; )
A good heart embiggins even the smallest person.
Quittin' Time
Different times is right.....I take pride in standing behind my beliefs and convictions.....also went to jail for refusing to go to Nam unlike Dubya who's daddy got him into the Champagne devision of the National Guard of which he went AWOL for a year.
Lets not forget Martha Stewart who might be making lampshades in the can....lol
Gettin' too old for jail now a daze......just being Gepetto..workin' thoughtfully on my crib along with other gigs......
Be well bro
andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Andy,
11.22am and you're posting. Shouldn't you be workin' on that addition. LOL. Just like me, 100's of things to do before wedding on Saturday and I find myself here for 2 minutes.
Hope all is going well. 'cause it ain't for me.
Jon
Jon
At the point of making tons of calls....concrete form guy, excavator, plumbers and sparky's..etc etc so I'm in front of the puter a lot lately.....not to mention an ad for help..ut oh.
Up and down those stairs a whole lot.
Excavator/demo guy will be here next week..ut oh...lol.
So much to do and so lil' time not to mention the pool is happenin' now here now out back...barbee's and layin' up after work..is that allowed? Doubt it..tough.
Hope all is well with you and yer hitchin' up..expecting pictures dude!!!
Be well
Andy
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
Hope all is well with you and yer hitchin' up..expecting pictures dude!!!
Andy,
I will post some when all this $tuff is over and done with with. This last month has been harder on me than my last week of B-school at UW-Mad. I'm sure you caught my post on my well going out on July 3rd. X10 has happened since. Just looking forward to three days on the beach in Q. Roo Mex. with a pitcher of margarita's in one hand, and a copy (stack?) of FHB in the other.
Jon
Just looking forward to three days on the beach in Q. Roo Mex. with a pitcher of margarita's in one hand, and a copy (stack?) of FHB in the other.
Uh... if this is a Honey Moon trip may I suggest that you leave the stack of FHB at home and put that second hand around the shoulder of the little lady next to you. That shoulder could get mighty cold while you're mind is elsewhere if you know what I mean. :-)> Congrats!Kevin Halliburton
"I believe that architecture is a pragmatic art. To become art it must be built on a foundation of necessity." - I.M. Pei -
"if this is a Honey Moon trip may I suggest that you leave the stack of FHB at home......."
Kevin,
we've been "dating" for ...?...?....? 15 years. Trust me, a few days on the beach with our favorite mags. will be great. (Both of us love to read) By the time we get back, the last of the guests should just about be leaving and we will hopefully have our home back.
Jon
Different times is right. Nowadays we got all them right wing laws that you get busted twice for, say, a joint and then steal a ham sandwich and they throw away the key. No money for higher ed, but lots to keep the riff raff in expensive prisons. Which leads into an editorial column by one of my more favorite Texans:
http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=miv
Of course, we didn't do all that naughty stuff in Berkeley in the '70s that you and Piffin are talkin bout. I mean all those Bolt Hall law students that went on to high profile judgeships and corporate law firms weren't really sittin around smokin joints at parties - I mean that would have left them too brain addled and no account, now wouldn't it have...
Edited 7/16/2003 10:52:54 PM ET by CaseyR
Casey
Great article..thanks
a
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM
You're gettin' married Saturday and you didn't intite any of us ???Shotgun wedding: A case of wife or death.
You're gettin' married Saturday and you didn't intite any of us ???
Boss,
Had I known you wanted to be "intited" I would have asked. Just don't know what that means. LOL.
Actually, It has gotten udderly ridiculous (Wisconsin speak) how many people are bringing uninvited people along. I'm glad I'm only doing this once. Thank GOD for the East Coast contingent and their gifts.
JonThank
Now that’s called being “mainstream, blue/white collar” along with political correctness. Where else can you dodge the draft and grow up to become president.LOL
Uh.....Ever hear of saddam Hussein?
In his first interview since the stroke, Ram Dass, 66, spoke with great difficulty about how his brush with death has changed his ideas about aging, and how the recent loss of two old friends, Timothy Leary and Allen Ginsberg, has convinced him that now, more than ever, is the time to ``Be Here Now.''
http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM