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a proper cricket

Sphere | Posted in Photo Gallery on July 9, 2005 01:31am

We had a bad situation where a cricket was shingled with no valley metal..just woven shingles..house has vinyl and the roof is maybe 15 yrs old I’d guess.

Dale an I tore off the shingles yesterday afternoon and lined the valleys, ( about 2 hrs, with clean up and caulking the holes from the installer’s roof jacks)

This morning we laid this baby to it, and reshingled 2/3 of a sq. in about 3 hours or so..you can maybe make out where the new an old shingles collide.

The funniest thing was, the bottom J channel was a foot SHORT after we R&R ed the cricket..so we added the apron..and blind cleated the vinyl with Cu cleats.

Just tryin to show what some architects do to mess with roofers.

this is how it is done.

  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

The OLYMPICS ARE HERE, THE OLYMPICS ARE HERE!!

( oh, not London KY..Shucks, I really thought PAris Ky had a chance too)

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    EricPaulson | Jul 09, 2005 02:33am | #1

    You call that a cricket?????

    Why I oughta................nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!

    Ain't that a dead valley or something or other?

    I taut a cricket goes behind a chimney or lays on the floor in the bathroom all night and keeps you awake until the cat eats it.

    Eric

    I Love A Hand That Meets My Own,

    With A Hold That Causes Some Sensation.

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      Sphere | Jul 09, 2005 03:03am | #4

      Ok..I call it a locust when I am drinking.

      It was a cluster fly in march, came in like a gnat..went out like a ladybug. LOL  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      The OLYMPICS ARE HERE, THE OLYMPICS ARE HERE!!

      ( oh, not London KY..Shucks, I really thought PAris Ky had a chance too)

    2. Piffin | Jul 10, 2005 02:15am | #5

      It was a dead valley until the cricket sat down on it. 

       

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        Sphere | Jul 10, 2005 02:29am | #6

        What exactly is the difference? I always used local vernacular to call a plane that ties two other planes.

        I know a cricket behind a chim is cricket, and this seems to do a similar function..

        I thought a dead valley was one which terminates at a point that does not have easy access to the guttering or none.

        Any help?

        Don't make me ask the boss..LOL GreenCu invents dead vallys nomenclature..LOL

         

        Hey, he did get us a boom lift, and a dump trailer, and all the new alumapoles. Keep on inventin there..I like it.  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

        What are dreadlocks made from?

        1. Piffin | Jul 10, 2005 03:01am | #7

          Picture the slopes of those two dormer roofs ending together with no 'cricket'. The water would stop dead without that helping slope from the cricket. So that makes it a dead valley. Same for if a sloped roof runs into a wall. The water flow 'dies' in the 'dead valley' puddling up untill there is enough to flow out at the ends or leak, which it generally does, thanks to brain dead designers, all the way from pro archies to DIY hacks 

           

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            Sphere | Jul 10, 2005 03:10am | #8

            I see the difference now.

            Thank you.

            That "cricket" was sloped from the vinyal wall and we had maybe a foot of opening as it dumped on to the large plane on the right.

            who the hell designs these things? on purpose?  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            What are dreadlocks made from?

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            EricPaulson | Jul 10, 2005 04:33am | #9

            It's all an after thought. Some one adds a structure and thinks they're savin' somethin by constucting anothe gable roof, rather than tearing off the whole thing and going up and over or whatever it would take to make a good and functional roof...........

            Pif, there is another name for it too I think, it's way back there in my noggin me thinks, just gotta get it to come forward!

            EricI Love A Hand That Meets My Own,

            With A Hold That Causes Some Sensation.

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          3. seeyou | Jul 10, 2005 06:00pm | #10

            there is another name for it too I think

            saddle..............Probably the earliest fly swatters were nothing more than somesort of striking surface attached to the end of a long stick.

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            trimcarp | Jul 12, 2005 03:59am | #11

            but how do you tie that saddle to the cricket?American Tradition

            Trim Carpentry Co.

             

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            rjw | Jul 12, 2005 04:09am | #12

            In my area, it's a saddle, and some call a chimney cricket a saddle as well.There are what I call "smart" saddles, which leave a good size gap at the bottom (a trapazoid, not a triangle) and the usual "dumb" ones.

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          6. blue_eyed_devil | Aug 07, 2005 04:30pm | #13

            There all saddles here too Bob.

            Personally, I never create a saddle that terminates in a small area. Because of snowloading and ice dam buildup, I find it necessary to create a much wider exit point. Occassionally, due to constraints, I've had to terminate with as small as 2, maybe 3 inches.

             

            blue 

  2. seeyou | Jul 09, 2005 02:37am | #2

    How'd you both get up on that to work?

    Probably the earliest fly swatters were nothing more than some
    sort of striking surface attached to the end of a long stick.

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      Sphere | Jul 09, 2005 03:00am | #3

      He sat on my shoulders.  Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      The OLYMPICS ARE HERE, THE OLYMPICS ARE HERE!!

      ( oh, not London KY..Shucks, I really thought PAris Ky had a chance too)

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