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   JTC1 | Sep 30, 2009 07:21pm | #1

   Same situation in a den a few months ago. Cherry counters and backsplash. 

   PL Premium and some judiciosly applied clamps and battens for a day.

   Workin' so far.

   Jim

   Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
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   MikeHennessy | Sep 30, 2009 09:32pm | #2

   I usually attach the backsplash to the counter, and fabricate it so there is a scribing element at the top. Once it's stuck to the cabs, I've never had to worry about attaching it to the wall.

   Mike Hennessy
   Pittsburgh, PA
   Everything fits, until you put glue on it.

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   woodway | Sep 30, 2009 09:43pm | #3

   IMHO, using wood of any kind for a back splash is not a good idea. Interesting and "woodworky" but a bad idea just the same.

   Need a solid smooth surface to wipe down now and again won't absorb water.

   Not saying you shouldn't do it, just don't think it's such a good idea in the long run.

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   JTC1 | Sep 30, 2009 09:56pm | #5

   >>IMHO, using wood of any kind for a back splash is not a good idea. Interesting and "woodworky" but a bad idea just the same.

   Need a solid smooth surface to wipe down now and again won't absorb water.<<

   Sorta' depends on where the backsplash is.  Mine was in a den as part of a built-in, think "furniture" - interesting and woodworky - like the rest of the room.

   Don't know where smslaw's is located, he said "alcove" in OP, but that could be anywhere in the house.

   I would agree, probably not the best idea in a kitchen or bath where wet is normal and frequent.

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   smslaw | Sep 30, 2009 11:23pm | #6

   The area is above a second oven. The space is used for baking, primarily.  No sink or other source of water. The countertop has been installed for months with no problems. I decided to put in the backsplash before being reminded by the chief baker. The countertop gets wiped down with a damp cloth. Finish is many coats of Waterlox

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   DustinT | Oct 01, 2009 12:02am | #7

   I cheated a little bit when I did the same.  I used PL premium and a bit of 2P-10 (wood superglue, essentially.)  I went liberal with the PL, and just used the 2P-10 at some judicious points for some quick grab.  No clamps involved! 

   Dustin

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   JTC1 | Oct 01, 2009 12:41am | #9

   It'll be fine.

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   Snort | Oct 01, 2009 12:59am | #10

   I've installed a lot of things like that with silicone, or siliconized caulk... it's got a pretty good quick grip, and there's usually some around. I, personally, wouldn't use PL Premium there because it swells up as it cures.http://www.tvwsolar.com

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   JTC1 | Oct 01, 2009 01:38am | #11

   >>...wouldn't use PL Premium there because it swells up as it cures.<<

   Does it really? I didn't know that.

   I have used it for a while and never noticed swelling.  Of course, I have seen squish out at joist tops, etc. but I never considered swelling. Most of my aps are buried behind / under surfaces where it doesn't make a difference.

   Good thing I kept the beads / dots toward the center of the backsplash......coudda been a disaster.

   Now Gorilla Glue ----I know about that stuff.....

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   Snort | Oct 01, 2009 01:48am | #13

   It is moisture cured like Gorilla glue. If it's really well pinned down pieces will stay put, but sometimes it's easier to use something else.http://www.tvwsolar.com

   We'll have a kid

   Or maybe we'll rent one

   He's got to be straight

   We don't want a bent one

   He'll drink his baby brew

   From a big brass cup

   Someday he may be president

   If things loosen up

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   JTC1 | Oct 01, 2009 03:15am | #14

   I know it is moisture cured, but does it really swell during curing?

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   BillHartmann | Oct 01, 2009 03:41am | #15

   I am not that sure that it does expand.I have not used it in a critical location like this, but from my experience it is far, far from something like gorrilia glue.But it might move a 1/16 or 2 and gaposis would not look good here. Any place that I have used it that small of movement would not have cause any problem..
   William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe

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   Snort | Oct 01, 2009 03:49pm | #17

   Yes, and the more moisture, the more it volumnizes. Put it on some wet framing, it sorta bubbles, and it definitely fills gaps. And, PL does recommend mechanically fastening until cured, then you can pull the nails<G>http://www.tvwsolar.com

   We'll have a kid

   Or maybe we'll rent one

   He's got to be straight

   We don't want a bent one

   He'll drink his baby brew

   From a big brass cup

   Someday he may be president

   If things loosen up

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   JTC1 | Oct 01, 2009 08:07pm | #18

   Never knew that.

   >>PL does recommend mechanically fastening until cured, then you can pull the nails<<

   I don't think I'll pull any nails, they look happy where they are.

   Guess my dry cherry, dry paint and batten clamps saved me on the backsplash.

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   PeteDraganic | Oct 01, 2009 04:47am | #16

   Same here... I've never noticed any swelling with PL

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   PeterJ | Sep 30, 2009 09:50pm | #4

   Construction adhesive or Smart Clips

   http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/BSC-0200/Smart-Clip-without-screws

    

    

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   BillHartmann | Oct 01, 2009 12:06am | #8

   For something like this, no real load on it, I would use Locktite PowerGrab.

   It is sticky enough that you just need to push the backsplash in place. No need for clamps or bracing.

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   William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe
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   JTC1 | Oct 01, 2009 01:40am | #12

   I probably would have too, but I ran out, PL on hand.

   JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.