I am an architect working on a 12 unit condominium building, at an Upstate NY ski resort. It is two story building, likely wood framed. I am looking to use adirondack siding (wavy boards, installed horizontally, nominally 1″ thick, no bevel, varying widths of 8″ plus, debarked). After chasing some costs, I am finding a wide disparity. I can get kiln dried western red cedar for about $370/square. KD eastern pine is about $185/square. Locally milled hemlock, green, is $87/square. Project totals about 16,000 square feet of siding for this building alone, with much more for planned hotel and shops.
I am planning on installing the siding over furring, to create a rain screen. I will work out some trim details to catch the thick siding. If we went with the green hemlock, I would recommend air drying the boards for at least 2 months prior to installation.
Any opinions as to which way to go, concerns over shrinkage, warping, nailing patterns for large boards, etc.
Thank you.
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BMan,
I think the eastern pine is your best bet. It will give you the look you're going for and remain fairly stable.The hemlock is more suited for the board and batten look,and with air drying will probably check and crack more then if just installed when delivered.
And just for your info installing siding like this is a pain in the butt,and should cost more for labor if your builder knows what he's doing.
Vince Carbone
I live in upstate NY, nine miles from the #1 ski resort in the east. This wouldn't be the project locale, would it?
Talk to the guy here that supplies this stuff to all the big-ticket guys building weekend $5 million homes for the rich and famous.
Ollie Burgess, Specialty Wood Products, Bloomingdale, NY 12913. 518-891-5815 He can discuss all options, methods, and put you in touch with people about application.
Waney edge is called "brainstorm" locally. Don't know where that came from.
Where are you with the project? Can I show you how some things of this scale and larger are being done, right now?
The project is about to enter the construction documents phase, and I should have those wrapped up in 4 or 5 weeks. I will give Ollie a call. Thanks for the "brainstorm" alert. It is difficult to describe this product succinctly.
The project location is a small 700 vertical foot hill in Central NY, between Syracuse and Binghamton. They are expanding their year round attractions, and these condos are the first in a series of projects.
I would be interested to see some images of related stuff. My cable modem can handle up to about 5 megs of images attached to an email without stumbling.
As seems typical for my projects, I have to carefully select where to spend money to achieve the look we are after for the project. This is certainly not equivalent to a $5million home. We will be considerably less than $80/sf, when all is said and done.
Bman
Hunter ski resort by chance?
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Blacky
how about cypress looking Harhee Plank?
In So carolina its $4.40 for a 12 ft pc, 8 in wide
No warp, split , rot, knots, paint pops etc etc.
Why not build for the longer term??
Wood is a 4 letter word when used outside
In my opinion, cement board products can not give the look I am after. Wood products need to be installed in a building designed for their use. Just slapping wood siding up over that tyvek wonder barrier, under a 12" overhang does nothing to ensure a good siding job. No matter what the sales rep tells you, I can spot cement board siding from the street. It is just too uniform.
Just finishing a "wavey" job as we speak. Dry red cedar by Haida. BC, 604 437-3434. 2 x 6 or 4 if preferred, rough sawn at the corners 2 x 2 on the inside, a 1" kickout furring strip on the 1st coarse bottom edge (we used a straight conventional 1 x 12 rough sawn for the starter board), and 2 x 6 rough sawn at the freeze and gable soffits. The only tricky and time consuming part is joining the ends. Not only must the wave meet at the same width across the face, but as with most 1" x 12" stock there will be the "cup" to deal with. Good luck, it's a nice look.