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AdvanTech Edge Swell and Surface Flaking

timbertrusscarpentry | Posted in General Discussion on February 24, 2020 12:42pm

This is a question directed to the reason why I am experiencing edge swelling and surface flaming and not a question as to the validity of a warranty claim.

I am building a shed located in the Midwest at the border between zones 4 and 5. I installed 3/4” AdvanTech subfloor over 2×8 pressure treated floor joists spaced 12” O.C. The subfloor was installed per the manufacturer’s installation instructions (subfloor adhesive applied to the joists, panels properly spaced on both the long and short edges, 6” nail spacing at the edges and 12” nail spacing in the field). The floor joists rest on 6×6 pressure treated timbers placed on a gravel pad formed of 3/4” crushed rock. A woven fabric is at the bottom of the gravel pad to separate the gravel from the dirt while allowing water to drain out of the gravel pad. There is approximately 5-1/2” of clearance between the top of the gravel pad and the bottom of the floor joists.

Because this is winter construction, the floor was exposed to rain and snow after installation and while the walls and roofed were framed. Within two weeks of the subfloor being installed (and still during the rough framing stage), I noticed that the subfloor was experiencing significant (to me) edge swell and surface flaking. The nails, which were left proud from the pneumatic nailer and hand driven snug (as opposed to flush), are now pulled through the upper surface of the flooring to the point that it appears I overdrove the nails during installation. This is also occurring in the field. 

The regional manufacturer’s rep visited the site and took moisture content readings (pin style) of the floor, which was at 14% moisture content. The rep explained that since this was a shed floor, the underside of the subfloor was exposed to moisture and that was causing the swelling and flaking. He also said that the manufacturer expects 12% or less moisture content. In my research, this is only required immediately before a finished floor is placed over the subfloor and not what is expected during the rough framing stage.

I can’t find anyone who has experienced edge swelling or surface flaking with this product (and posted about it online anyway) and my lumber yard has never heard of anyone having issues. I have a hard time believing that the subfloor was exposed to more moisture in those first two weeks than it would normally experience during regular home building.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT (3/6/2020): The floor has been covered now for a couple of weeks and the frequency of surface flaking is increasing and the AdvanTech is still indicating that it has a high moisture content (gaps closed up). For my region, I can expect DF to have an EMC of approximately 14-15% moisture content for February. What I can see of the underside looks good. I also have a couple of pieces left over from the install and they appear brand new relative to what’s down.

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  1. calvin | Mar 06, 2020 12:43pm | #1

    Your 6x6’s, surround the entire shed?
    Or
    Are there just two, one at each end of the joists?

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      timbertrusscarpentry | Mar 06, 2020 01:26pm | #3

      There are three rows of 6x6's: one at each end of the floor joists and one in the center span. So there are two air spaces the length of the floor on either side of the center 6x6, and these air spaces are open to airflow at both ends. Let me know if that doesn't make sense?

  2. mpergiel | Mar 06, 2020 01:00pm | #2

    IMO, OSB products really need to be protected from external fluctuations in humidity. And from temperature to some degree. Not suitable for a wear floor either, but you stated subfloor. Once the final floor is down it may be fine.

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      timbertrusscarpentry | Mar 06, 2020 01:32pm | #4

      Thanks for the input. Subfloor was a bit sloppy on my part. The AdvanTech was intended as the final floor since it will just be an unheated storage shed. Another concern (in addition to why the AdvanTech is doing the two things it is not supposed to do), is whether the surface flaking will continue (despite the shed being buttoned up) such that we will have to put down a wear floor on top of the AdvanTech.

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