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   JohnT8 | Jan 21, 2005 12:48am | #1

   Alright... we need to take up an offering to get green a new digital camera.  The current one ain't doing justice to the workmanship.

    

   jt8

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   seeyou | Jan 21, 2005 01:03am | #2

   That's a scan of a photo. I reducued it for the dial ups.Just because you should, doesn't mean you can!

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   JohnT8 | Jan 21, 2005 01:16am | #3

   I recommend the current model of my camera;  Olympus Camedia C-740.  Consumer Reports liked it too.  About $260 clams.

   It is a mid-level camera featurewise..  More features than a point-and-shoot, but not a full-blown professional model.  3mp sized shots are big enough to 8x10 print.  One of its key features is a 10X optical (not digital) zoom.

   Or for less $$$ you can get a point-and-shoot jobie with maybe 3x optical zoom.

   A friend who liked using my 720 bought the 740 and sent me the attached pics (I shrunk them down) last spring.  Maximum zoom really makes a difference.

    

    jt8

   Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Nick Diamos

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   JohnT8 | Jan 21, 2005 01:21am | #4

   And from my 720.  8xoptical, 3x digital.  shrunk pic size down.  I was standing in the same spot for both pics.

   Oh, did I mention I liked both those roofs?  I'm not a big fan of cedar, but copper gutters look nice with cedar.  And copper roofs are always neat.

    

   jt8

   Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. -- Nick Diamos

   Edited 1/20/2005 5:22 pm ET by JohnT8

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   JohnT8 | Jan 21, 2005 10:15am | #5

   Well, since I hijacked the thread with camera talk, howabout if I hijack it back to the roof?

   What is a ballpark price on materials of a roof like that ? 

    

   jt8

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   seeyou | Jan 21, 2005 01:47pm | #6

   I own 2 digital cameras. Dale recently split up with his SO. She kept "their" digital. He bought a disposable to take those two pics. He snapped both pics as he finished up. I'll go around and take digitals later.

   Materials? - Probably $500-$600 if you count the waste, which there is quite a bit. But, most of it eventually gets used somewhere else (Step and counter flashing, hold down clips, etc).Just because you should, doesn't mean you can!

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   andybuildz | Jan 21, 2005 04:56pm | #7

   awesome bro!!!
   Did Sphere do the rest of the roof?
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   seeyou | Jan 21, 2005 06:30pm | #8

   Did Sphere do the rest of the roof?

   No- all we did was this bay and some gutter repairs on this house.Just because you should, doesn't mean you can!

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   JohnT8 | Jan 22, 2005 12:09am | #9

   I didn't word that right.  I meant, what would you CHARGE someone for the roof (uninstalled).  Just a ballpark number.

   Once in a while my prospective project houses have bump-outs or similar features with small roofs.  I like the look of cu (both new and aged) and like its lifespan.

    jt8

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   seeyou | Jan 22, 2005 12:36am | #10

   what would you CHARGE someone for the roof (uninstalled)

   You want to materials and fabrication labor only? I charge $.10/lin ft for a shear or a bend. If it's radiused like the example, I upcharge from 10% to 50% depending on the tightness of the radius. I'm currently retailing 16 oz copper at about $2.80/ft sq. I'm very competitive in my market. Your market may vary significantly. My installer charged about $500 including tearing off the old roof and drying it in. Just because you should, doesn't mean you can!

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   JohnT8 | Jan 22, 2005 01:03am | #11

   You want to materials and fabrication labor only? I charge $.10/lin ft for a shear or a bend. If it's radiused like the example, I upcharge from 10% to 50% depending on the tightness of the radius. I'm currently retailing 16 oz copper at about $2.80/ft sq. I'm very competitive in my market. Your market may vary significantly. My installer charged about $500 including tearing off the old roof and drying it in.

   Thanks for the numbers.  This area is pretty sad for Cu roofing-gutter contractors.

   I was already keeping you in mind for built-in gutter liners... now I'll add bump-out/accent roofs to the list.

   And if I ever hit the lottery, I'll be asking you about WHOLE roof prices ;)

   I've still got copies of that roof you made for the karl in CA (one of his pics attached).  Really an attention getter.  jt8

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   Snort | Jan 22, 2005 01:43am | #12

   No matter how loud they whine, not everybody here is on dialup...I say post 'em big<G> Don't worry, we can fix that later!