I was just reading the artcle in the newest issue on the miter saw stand. It caught my attention because I have been wanting to put together some type of stand for some time now. Just wanted to see if anyone here is going to make one.
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not me
Me neither..........
The thing is too big. Fine if you're outdoors or in a big ass'd room w/o anything in it.
As a remodeler I have to think constant movement, packing up usually every night. Even tho it's on wheels, it's a shop stand ..........
or one you can leave onsight...........
or have a trailer with plenty of room to haul it.
I have a full size van and would have to sacrifice much more usuable stuff in order to cart that around.
Horse's and a much smaller box apparatus is what I use. Add a plank and cut board and I have more workspace than whats there, and can park it in a smaller area when moving. One old man means more lighter pcs.
Looks good tho, nice if you could use it.
I am perfectly happy with my Rigid stand. Tucks away in my trailer.
I used to use a large home built saw stand on the job... it was a customized version of Norm's portable chop saw stand and FHB even published pics of it in the past Nov? issue. I used that stand for several years before switching to a folding saw stand for the jobsite. The large stand went into my shop.
But the more I think about it, the more I realize that a small stand would work better in my shop and I could really use a larger stand on the job.
Think about it: In the shop I have benches, dedicated work surfaces, stationary tools, even a huge make-shift work surface on the cabinet saw and its extension wing. But on the job I have my little saw stand or the floor. Sometimes a [bench model] tablesaw set up and sometimes a couple saw horses and a few 2x's but not so much a real 'workstation' anymore. Not to mention I gotta drag all that stuff out of the truck if I want it. But whereas I used to have room on my old stand to rest my tools, now I gotta sit them on the ground. My old stand had enough room to perform some bench work, area to stage and stack cut stock, a place to stash some layout or otherwise small tools, and a place to sit my coffee mug. My new stand has enough room for a chop saw and a pencil.
Actually I'd like to scrap both my stands and put my shop saw on a rolling cart then build my jobsite saw stand more as a multifunction workbench than just a dedicated chop saw stand. I imagine one way to facilitate this would be to NOT have an integrated fence. The big stand I built has a fence on either side of the saw but it prohibits cutting stock with slight bows. I would rather just rely on the my saw's fence. Without the need for an aligned fence, all that is then required is stock support which can be as simple as some movable/removable blocks or some flip up supports. A folding roller stand or two could take care of supporting the really long stuff.
I've been working on a design but I'd like to make it custom to the saw and I'm kinda hoping Bosch will eventually come out with a 10" version of their Axial Glide saw that would replace my current jobsite saw. Hey, then I could have two saws in the shop... can you imagine not having to flip miter angles back and forth anymore?
DC
DC,
Bosch is working on the 10" version. No planned release date, but it should be coming.
I don't think so Tim
Why would anyone bother. The thing is a monster and probably weighs the same. Being a renovator, weight, portability and ease of function are key. Looks like a project for someone retired with lots of time and money. No good for someone still working in the field like myself.
Just sayin
Gary
I'm back into project mode at the moment.
I realize now that I treally like having my miter saw on a 4 wheeled cart (not a dolly), but that I need supports that have the same height with my jobsite table saw, so one or two plastic tables can do the same work for two different units.
Still working on getting that all figured out.
I do like the versatility of the saw, and it spraked alot of ideas.
Building the Ultimate Miter Saw Stand? Nope
Like previous posts...this thing has to be heavy as a beast. But to tell you the truth....if FHB cannot take the time to publish a cut list and plans then I do not have the time to build it. Pure lazyness on FHB.
".....if FHB cannot take the time to publish a cut list and plans then I do not have the time to build it ...."
Stan, don't think I am defending FHB but a REAL carpenter doesn't need a cutlist or even plans for that matter. There were plans enough for me in what they showed in the magazine. I gotta wonder about the carpentry skills of anyone who cannot look at a picture like they supplied - of a pretty simple BOX no less - and be still unable to figure it out for himself. THAT is either laziness or extreme lack of competence. Not to mention Justin (jfink) is right that the plans wouldn't be worth a darn to you anyway unless you have a Bosch 12" Axial Glide saw - or - were you planning on buying the saw after building the stand for it (as per the last line of your comment) and therefore don't yet have the saw to base your dimensions off. It would at least make for a better excuse.
DC
Stan,
You're right, it is heavy. And we're not too lazy to print a cutlist for the stand, it just doesn't make any sense to create a cutlist because the goal of the project was to inspire people to build their own custom stand. If I give you dimensions that work for the Bosch Glider, they won't work for a Hitachi 10" saw.
Newbies, Weekenders, and Hobbiest need the help
I appreciate that a lot of the target audience at FHB are "pros", and aren't members of the amateur groups listed above. However, they are probably a large portion of your readers, and it is nice to give them pretty straight forward instructions. Also, not everyone who reads the magazine is a carpenter. There are a lot of your readers who are highly skilled in their respective trades, but neophytes in the other trades.
Cut lists, and drawings with, "vary this to match your saw" annotations and instructions are an important part of their gaining competence.
Your lack of understanding, of those portions of the demographic, and your apparently flippant unwillingness to give them good service, makes me question your competence.
Jigs-n-fixtures
I'm gonna go ahead and assume some of your ire was directed towards my comments. I am sure that Taunton knows sure and well that the majority of their "target audience" is home owners and DIYs. Contractors and home designers are actually the secondary customer, and for that reason FHB is nothing like JLC. Taunton just feeds on the fact that HOs and DIYs like to read architecture porn - it's the same sort of reason that so many tools are labeled "professional" and "industrial duty" yet none are labeled "hobbyist grade".
Now, I don't know where you (JnF) falls in the ranks but I make a habit of proudly declaring myself a real deal professional carpenter and give advice around here as such. In the subject at hand concerning the "ultimate mitersaw stand" I know indeed that I come off like a jerk but there are three distinct reasons: 1) Justin is correct that the stand will need many adjustments in order to work for different saws. 2) FHB is not now, has never been, and hopefully never will be a "woodworking plans" publication like many home hobbyist mags already out there. In fact it was generous enough that they offered a FREE DOWNLOAD of the Sketchup model from which you could get all the measurements you want and build off to make custom. But that would take effort. Which brings me to point 3) I have build many buildings and objects from plan - but only because I had to in order to receive my pay. For myself I make my own plan and it is a skill that needs to be honed if one desires to be worth his salt as a carpenter of any sort (be it pro or hobbyist alike).
Let me expound on that last point; I read several woodworking magazines and go to several other carpentry/woodwork forums and I am often astonished as to see the plans given for the simplest items. Fair enough if the mag is giving it out since the readers buy the mag for plans of simple boxes and the publishers know that. But in forums I often see posters showing off their works which is followed by commenters begging for plans. Why? Figure it out like the first guy did. Design your own. Have some gumption to plan and you will learn that planning is a requisite skill. I'm starting to get gripe-y again, I know. But here is FHB that isn't a WW plan mag giving you a great springboard idea and you all cry because they didn't include a fold out plan and cut list or something. Should they include scaled plans for all the houses they show too? You know that bathroom plan is going to need a lot of redesigning to fit your house so why would they give you a plan and itemized shopping list? That's all I think they are trying to say here - give 'em a break.
DC
gentlemen
I did not know there was a sketchup dnld, which I assume is just a couple angled shots. You could figure the cut sheet just fine probably. Moreso if you were to undertake the project, you'd be some steps above a first time woodworker.
But yes, a cut sheet would be great for the novice, and save time for the more advanced person.
But so what.
The thread is whether you'd build it or not. Stay on topic and everyone's happy. But remember, this is a forum where opinions (and you've got alot of them DC) are meant to be put forward.
And responses to those opinions are expected.
Not not you, but to Justin.
Dreamcatcher: I have a fairly deep skill set, and I can probably design and build most anything I want. I am also a proponent of teaching skills to others. I have taught design classes, and explained how to modify plans to cub carpenters. Most of them just need a bit of a nudge and they can pick up from there.
It wouldn't have taken Justin long to do a quick list of the ciritical dimensions that are saw dependant, and if not include it with the article, to have provided a weblink to those readers who might want to learn how to modify the design to fit their needs.
TO ALL
Hey, as a heads up here to anyone thinking about building the FHB "ultimate mitersaw stand" as well as to all the critics spouting off about it's weaknesses you may want to check out the November 2010 issue of JLC and the very well thought out "Carpenter's Workbench" designed by Jesper Cook.
(http://www.toolsofthetrade.net/industry-news.asp?sectionID=1539&articleID=1499469)
DC