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   BillHartmann | Apr 20, 2007 07:11pm | #1

   I have the 17ft. They are made by Werner and AFAIK they are the same.

   I like my 17ft.

   They are great for all of the different step ladder and stair modes.

   If you want to use it primarily as an extension ladder those styles (not just that brand) suck.

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   A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
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   JohnT8 | Apr 20, 2007 07:14pm | #2

   If you want to use it primarily as an extension ladder those styles (not just that brand) suck.

   Explain your suck rating.  Suck because they're not stable?  Hard to set up? Too short, what?

   I would be using them for all of their variations.

    jt8

   "We ourselves feel that what we are doing is just a drop in the ocean. But the ocean would be less because of that missing drop."-- Mother Teresa

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   rasconc | Apr 20, 2007 08:10pm | #3

   Not to answer for Bill but I can imagine that it is a little more effort to unfold, extend one side, then the other to do what a lighter weight extension ladder will do in one step.  I have the Werner 17' Little Giant type.  Just bought it and did extend it to check it out.

   It is a nice product and not overly heavy but much heavier than the lesser rated extension versions.  It is 300# rated and I am sure a similar 300# ext would be closer in weight than most of the 225/275 rated ones.

   If you have need for the many different configurations then this is great to not have to haul at least three ladders.  If your main use is extension then you may be unhappy.  It may be that you get so used to opening it up you can do it like the Founder of LG on the infomercial, fast and with your eyes closed.

   Bob

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   BillHartmann | Apr 20, 2007 08:30pm | #4

   What Bob said.If you need partial height it might not be as bad.But if you need full or near full height you need to extend out what will be the high end. Then lift it up and then extend the bottom end while balancing the ladder, and trying not to get you hand caught between the rungs and the cross bar.Or extend the bottom one out before lifting and having to lift the whole thing up in one piece.And I suspect that they heavier than the same size extension ladder.But they are great for the other modes. And for only occasional extention ladder work it is OK.I have the 17ft and looking for ane excuse for the 23 ft one..
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   A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

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   harrisdog43 | Apr 20, 2007 08:35pm | #5

   I do have the long one and it is very hard to use fully extended when you are trying to set it in place by yourself. I love it in the full or even partially extended step ladder or A frame mode. I sit on the top while working. My 17' isn't too hard to use as an extension ladder though.

   A 28' fiberglass extension ladder is a lot easier to use as an extension ladder though. I need to sell the 23' and buy one of those.

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   peteshlagor | Apr 20, 2007 09:06pm | #6

   I could never feel comfortable using one of those.  I prefer this:

   Werner 8-Foot 300-Pound Duty Rating Aluminum Five-Way Combination Ladder #C378

   http://www.amazon.com/Werner-300-Pound-Aluminum-Combination-C378/dp/images/B00070OW2A

   It turns into an extension ladder, or sits strait on steps or hills.  And is easier to carry around.

   I believe they go up to 10 or 12'

    

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   BillHartmann | Apr 20, 2007 09:22pm | #7

   "I could never feel comfortable using one of those."Why?.
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   A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

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   peteshlagor | Apr 20, 2007 10:48pm | #8

   The articulating points seemed to offer a chance for failure. 

   But maybe I'm being prejuiced by experience with a lesser quality product as I'm speaking of those W shaped ladders in general.

    

    

   Edited 4/20/2007 3:50 pm ET by peteshlagor

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   BillHartmann | Apr 20, 2007 11:54pm | #9

   Here is not talking about an Articulating ladder, but rather a multiladder.It is a Little Giant Clone.http://www.kellerladder.net/series.pl?ddlTypes=10&series=KMThttp://www.wernerladder.com/newprods/mt.php
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   A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

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   jc21 | Apr 22, 2007 10:43pm | #10

   I've got the 22' Werner version (MT-22). It's got iirc, a 1A (300b) rating but to me it doesn't feel as solid as a regular extension ladder (my lard butt doesn't help ;), and it's heavier. Wouldn't be without it though. Handy on stairs and stairwells and I find it more stable than a regular stepladder and it's nice being able to climb both sides. A bud has the Keller ......... doesn't look a whole lot different. If your primary use is as an extension ladder, I'd get an extension ladder.

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   JohnT8 | Apr 23, 2007 07:56am | #12

   I'm waffling on whether to buy it or not.  I was looking at them Saturday.  They didn't have one setup, which might have helped me make up my mind.

   But those rungs looked like someone just hammered the ends flat and bolted 'em to the frame of the ladder.  A little less finished looking than the LG.  And the rungs looked considerably smaller than a step ladder's and even smaller than a typical extension ladder (visions of my big clodhoppers spending hours standing on those narrow rungs).

   So... not having one setup, I couldn't climb on it to see how sturdy it was.  If my fat butt can't bounce up and down on those rungs (without damaging them), I don't want it. 

    

    jt8

   "The lowest ebb is the turn of the tide."-- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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   RCovell | Apr 23, 2007 08:08am | #13

   I've had the 22' LG for several years now and just love it. I got the Type I version to save on weight, since I have to carry it all over the place. I don't find it a problem to extend or move into place and while at full extension with me at the top, it's not necessarily rock solid, but, I don't feel any risk at all. A friend's wife bought him the same ladder with the IA rating and it's noticeable heavier, glad I don't have to lug it around. I compared the LG to the Gorilla brand at big orange and wouldn't have one of those. It's just not worth fighting poor quality and difficulty of use to save a few bucks. IIRC, ladder rungs are tested to 3 or 4x their rated capacity, so few of us will ever have a problem with that. And, the LG has an accessory work platform that can ease the pain of long time frame jobs. With my purchase of the LG, I've retired the 6' fiberglass and 16' articulated ladder I used to truck around. I'd buy another LG in a heartbeat.Bob.

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   andybuildz | Apr 23, 2007 08:18am | #14

   I bought  the 22'er off of Ebay a cpl of years ago...the "heavy" one and mannnnnn is it heavy...whewwww. Almost defeats the purpose but I will say  this...I'm happy its the heavy duty model when it's fully extended!! And as you said...I'd buy a second in a heartbeat but being I do have the tallest ladder they have my second LG would be a shorter model which means I'd be OK getting it in a lighter series being its not extended so high.

   Thats my recomondo to anyone thats considering buying a cpl of these bad boys...the heavy duty for the tallest one and the lighter duty for the shorter models...9 out of 10 X I'd probably be shlepping the smaller model around most of the time so....

   BTW Ebay DOES have good deals on them pretty often.  I saved about $75 on mine...new.

    

    

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   jocobe | Apr 23, 2007 02:39pm | #15

   I bought my LG years ago. At the time Home Depot was selling the knock-off Gorilla ladder. I called the mfgr. of the Gorilla (actually the importer) and he said the accessories like the platform and extension leg were not available with the Gorilla......nor were parts. Now, this may have changed....I don't know.I use the platform and especially the extension leg, for uneven ground, quite a bit. I've never had to replace a part, but it is nice to know they are available..View Image

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   harrisdog43 | Apr 23, 2007 07:38pm | #16

   FWIW, I actually have the 22' Gorilla. It does use the LG accessories...the stand-off has to be set one rung lower than it would with the LG. IRC, the braces on the Gorilla get in the way. The platform really works great. I've only used the extension leg and stand-off on one job, but they sure were worth it.

   John

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   toolbear | Apr 23, 2007 03:46am | #11

   Anyone using a Keller multiladder?  Menards has the 22' on sale for $169.  How do you like it?

   Had a 17' Werner version from Costco for $99 in use since 2004.  I like it a lot.  Fits in the van.  Offers a lot of setup options.  Great for doing pole lights and such. It's rated for 300#.  Very solid.  Heavier than the #200 homeowner flimsies. 

   Color me a multiladder fan.  For a period of months I was using it every day.

   For those few jobs needing more, I load a 22' FG extension ladder.  If that won't work, the shop truck comes with a 26' ladder.

   Costco is now selling the Cosco.  The label aserts that it's the World's Greatest Ladder.  Werner is better.

    

    

    

   The ToolBear

   "Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.

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   LesaSallee | Dec 29, 2020 06:30am | #17

   I'm using this ladder. It's my best helpful thing.