I was just wondering, we mostly apec andersen, and when the job calls for it we get custom sizes and shapes from their architectural line, which is essentially the old KML line of windows with the aluminum exterior cladding.
Lately I have been looking a lot at my Eagle windows catalogue that is sitting in the bookshelf by my desk here, and I’ve got to tell ya, they look pretty nice. There is a wide variety of standard color options insluding some anodized finishes, and tehy come in a lot of shapes, like arch tops and others as standard sizes, which makes specing them a whole lot easier.
In all fairness to Andersen, we work closely with a rep who couldn’t be better, and the local andersen distributer here couldn”t be more helpful. That is the main reason we spec Andersen as opposed to say Pella.
I know Andersen recently purchased Eagle windows, so the company must have been doing something right, but according to my Andersen rep, they will continue to act as their own company. They will not become integrated with Anddersen as KML did.
So, If you have used them or seen them, what did you think? Just looking for any feedback here. Thanks.
Andrew
check out their website www.eaglewindow.com
Edited 8/2/2006 10:39 am ET by xosder11
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In my last home, I added a deck and opened up the kitchen and dining room on to the deck. Used two Eagle French doors. Solid, good quality product. I was impressed with the quality and adjustability of the hinges. Overall, very good.
Half the price and twice the quality as the top of the line Pella I had installed in my present house.
Good info. Thanks
IMO it is not hard to beat Pella for quality.
I know a couple who built their own with a kit. It had Eagle, which I had barely heard of before. my impression is that they were good, maybe a bit cheaper on some hardware, but nice fitting on the wood interiors. not in the same class as Marvins, but nothing I would be ashamed to install in my own home.
I know if another large hoime here where the original had Pellas and the addition got Eagles. nobody notices the difference in style it is so minimal, but the eagles are at least as good as th4e Pellas.
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Cool. I'm excited to maybe give these windows and doors a go on a project. We are always very budget concious on our designs, and when you get into some of these homes where the client really is going for looks and quality, without a price that knocks them out of their pants, having that custom designed appearance with some funky windows and less than standard shapes and sizes, it almost always forces us into andersen's architectural line. The problem with the andersen architectural line is that they aint cheap, and if you go with the architectural line you now need to go with the architectural line patio doors as well so that all windows and doors will be aluminum clad, even in situations where a standard size 400 series patio door would fit. Plus, andersen only offers 4 colors. White, green, sandstone, and terratoneOh Andersen will tell you that the colors are complimentry, but show me a terratone vinyl clad 400 series glider and a terratone aluminum clad architectural line casement after both have seen some sun and weather and tell me if they match. Fool me once....I like the idea of getting our clients that really custom look without breaking the bank, I get nervous about reccomending a brand I have little actual experience with. But, your climate there is pretty tough on exteriors, so its reassuring to hear your approval.
Ever use Semcos, not a real well know manufactuer, but the quality is top notch. All welded aluminium extursions, metal nailing flange that snaps out, good hardware, reasonable price.
Hadn't heard of them. I'll keep my ears open
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I've used them several times. I commented in another thread the other day about them. Certainly better than a Pella (what isn't?) and you're right - they're pretty nice, and a handful of notable options in the catalog. I like their cladding; its fairly thick, and the window hardware is probably my vote for most chincy on the little prongs that connect the sash to the up n down slider thingys (technical terminology there). But in all fairness, everyone seems to make those pretty cheap. Theres only a handful of windows that have beef in those pins.
Cost wise, they're a great bang for the buck here. I just used some a few weeks ago, they were about 30w and 48h double hung clad and maybe 275 a pop? Not shabby. I just checked. $298 with tax.
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LOL, You noticed the hardware too!
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I did a job in 2001 which used Eagle windows and doors. They seemed to be a pretty decent product.
In 2004, the customer reported sills rotting.
The windows had been properly painted very soon after installation.
Apparently the screens had no weepholes and several of the sills started to come apart at the fingerjoints.
After 1 year of going back and forth with an Eagle rep, they were finally willing to pay some of the repair cost. Very poor customer service and warranty coverage. But I am sure the screens come with weepholes now.
Eagles have always been top quality. I have used them often and never been disappointed.
I hate all the Pella bashing. I recently installed Eagles that were tall casements. Way to large for the hinge. It still wakes me up at night knowing that the windows were installed way out of square because they wouldn't operate otherwise.
So who is Pella bashing? not me. I'm reporting facts about the company, its attitude and marketing, and the product I recieve
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Most of the window discussions here have poor things to say about Pella, none of which I have experienced. I've only been using them for a little over ten years and have been back to many homes they were installed in (problem free). As far as Pella warranty, I wouldn't know because I've never dealt with call backs or warranty regarding the windows. I like the product and am comfortable selling it and putting my name behind it.
Dustin
Ever tried to remove a Pella casement sashes from a large window to make installation easier? You have to take the hardware off! Every time we use them something is screwed up. We stick with the Marvins. We've used Eagle's in the past they are a knotch below Kolbe & Kolbe. Semco's are "builder quality" windows. the kind homeowners are replacing the windows in their houses 15 years down the road because they are falling apart.
During a recent renovation of my large country home, I had all new windows installed. Approximately (its been 4 years now) $50k of Pella Architect and Designer series windows and doors.
This is after 4 years of service, not 14 or 40. One set of patio doors is literally falling apart. Every double hung window that gets opened/closed on a regular basis (there are 60 total, during spring and fall, probably 30 are opend and closed daily, so this is not an isolated instance), the latches are already loose and wobbly. The patio doors have/had color matched handles. The paint in 4 years has worn off to expose the primer underneath, with normal daily use.
This is not bashing, this is honest personal experience. Pella is poor at best. Don't ever but Pella. I only recommend windows and doors like mine, to people I really dislike.
I can't say anything bad about other window manufacturers. But my past experiences with Eagle have all been positive. I found the frames and extrusions to be well made and rigid.