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Are palm nailers worth the money

Brummel | Posted in Tools for Home Building on March 14, 2006 07:04am

Hi to every one out here usually lurk and I like what I read. Besides the good info a good sense of humor runs amok here at Breaktime.

Anyways was wondering if anyone had experience with palm nailers. I would like to get a Hitachi Strap nailer but for the job It might not work overall because its size and its cost. So what I was wondering will a palm nailer speed things up in tight spots or should I just bust my knuckles up and save the money for better toys. I don’t recall any threads recently about this subject. Appreciate your opinions and thanks for it.

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  1. User avater
    IMERC | Mar 14, 2006 07:05am | #1

    yup...........

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!

    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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    IMERC | Mar 14, 2006 07:08am | #2

    65 hits........

     

    here's 50.................

     

    1. Out here in smoky SoCal we have so many bits of silver to nail ...
    - from framerboy, 11/1/2003
    2. Clay, I've actually gone through two Senco palm nailers in as ...
    - from dieselpig, 3/11/2003
    3. Don't really need it. Wasn't looking for one. But the sign said ...
    - from RalphWicklund, 8/26/2002
    4. I've had great luck over all with palm nailers.  Hangers/ ...
    - from dieselpig, 10/31/2003
    5. Dave and Mrs.......I use framing, finishing nailers (coil and ...
    - from fireeater48, 8/9/2004
    6. Well, I probably should have written more to be clearer.  ...
    - from JohnSprung, 4/10/2003
    7. I have two palm nailers but I agree with you.  I owned a Paslode ...
    - from nomad, 11/1/2003
    8. As you see, everyone has their opinion... I've used the Hitachi ...
    - from NathanW, 4/2/2003
    9. See what nails are available at your local yard. Buy the nailer ...
    - from MikeCallahan, 2/7/2003
    10. Sorry I don't have the model number here right now, but I ...
    - from cajutila, 5/27/2004
    11. Palm nailers Senco vs Bostich vs. PCable. Who's had recent good ...
    - from Bill in NJ, 5/18/2005
    12. sister your 2x6s in and put in solid blocking perpindicular to ...
    - from hubcap, 4/2/2004
    13. Palm Nailer. Why do we burn through palm nailers?  Seems I can ...
    - from dieselpig, 5/27/2004
    14. looking for a good Palm nailer. Started a framing job requiring ...
    - from mhurd0, 7/30/2002
    15. I too am looking at a 15 ga nailer for DIY use.  Before you guys ...
    - from AlecS, 9/9/2003
    16. Nailer Questions. Hi, Folks: Done a fair amount of restoration ...
    - from NICHOLS38, 5/30/2003
    17. It absolutely amazes me that these are not more widely known. I' ...
    - from EricGunnerson, 4/29/2003
    18. Clay and all, Although the palm nailer is only a hundred dollars ...
    - from vineyrdbuilt, 11/1/2003
    19. Palm Nailers -- What do you like? I'm considering going the palm ...
    - from JohnSprung, 3/17/2003
    20. Palm nailers work fine. So do strap guns / teco nailers / ...
    - from RW, 10/27/2003
    21.   Well, I think it's pretty ugly, myself.  But then, I can't ...
    - from darcy, 4/4/2005
    22. * CTS is caused by a too-small carpal tunnel, the space between ...
    - from splintergroupie, 7/13/2001
    23. Palm Nailers. I'm thinking of asking Santa for a palm nailer for ...
    - from Tark, 12/17/2004
    24. I'm going with the Porter Cable. Amazon has had it for $110 ...
    - from Bill in NJ, 5/24/2005
    25. palm nailers? * Has anyone had any experience with a palm nailer ...
    - from harry_maddox, 1/4/2000
    26. Air Palm Nailers. * I am interested in an air palm nailer and ...
    - from Andrew_Sims, 8/29/2000
    27. * I misstated the brand name in my previous post as Simpson ...
    - from Calvin_Jutila, 3/11/2002
    28. I saw the video the first time. Put down the drill and try ...
    - from dieselpig, 2/20/2006
    29. This may not be the place to ask this but.., if you have to get ...
    - from John, 5/25/2002
    30. * Maj - I've been volunteering with them here in Orange County, ...
    - from John_Wells, 2/1/1999
    31. Depending on what level of cabinetry you are planning to put ...
    - from AlecS, 12/4/2004
    32. Hey, Jason, I'm a framer in Idaho. Where are you located? ...
    - from caldwellbob, 9/3/2002
    33. Sorry Boss- Thought you might have read the then current thread ...
    - from rez, 9/3/2002
    34. * Thank you, Jim. I didn't think palm nailers went back that far ...
    - from Guest, 11/17/1999
    35. The cost of the nailer is negligble compared to the nails you ...
    - from MikeCallahan, 12/31/2002
    36. * .Jim... I tried to answer this the other night but I got timed ...
    - from Guest, 2/18/2000
    37. * I just bought two new Palm Nailers from Danair, and they are ...
    - from Calvin_Jutila, 3/10/2002
    38. * Gotta agree with the tendonitis thing. I've had a few ...
    - from Michael_Ampula, 12/17/2001
    39. Geoff's solution is the kind of thing I was thinking of.  If you ...
    - from JohnSprung, 4/1/2002
    40. The HD stores here don't carry palm nailers, so I bought one ...
    - from FastEddie1, 8/4/2002
    41. * Skip, I build equestrian cross-country jumping courses- lots ...
    - from Earl_Nemo, 6/20/2000
    42. I have two Senco palm nailers and as everyone else has said, ...
    - from caldwellbob, 9/3/2002
    43. Plam nailers. I,m tried of brused knuckles & have decided to buy ...
    - from Guest, 9/1/2002
    44. We have a rather crappy Danair that works well enough.  We also ...
    - from Timuhler, 9/2/2002
    45. I also have the Paslode Positive Placement Strip Nailers and ...
    - from Framer, 2/4/2005
    46. I think the answer may depend on if you have more flooring jobs ...
    - from JAlden, 4/21/2005
    47. If memory serves, senco makes two differnt palm nailers. I seem ...
    - from reinvent, 12/17/2004
    48. > The hose should look like an addition to the tank of the ...
    - from JohnSprung, 10/22/2004
    49. Desert Island (Sorta) Tool List. I am going to do a DIY ...
    - from dcjohn, 12/16/2004
    50. Is it absolutely irrelevent?  The point of this whole thread was ...
    - from xxPaulCPxx, 6/28/2005

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!

    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!



    Edited 3/14/2006 12:09 am by IMERC

  3. joeh | Mar 14, 2006 07:21am | #3

    Handy little things.

    Kinda wonder about the long term damage to my hands, but doesn't stop me from using mine. Dumb maybe, ask again in 10 years?

    Joe H

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      Ted W. | Mar 14, 2006 08:10am | #4

      When you really need it just once, you'll be glad to have it. -----------------------------------------------------------

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  4. rcobb | Mar 14, 2006 10:21am | #5

    It's one of those little problem solving/make life easier tools.

    I think I paid about $22 for mine (obviously a cheapie) from an ebay store called martool.  If you do a search for "big foot saw" you'll find him as he is always selling them.

    1. Stilletto | Mar 14, 2006 12:33pm | #6

      They are a good buy,  for joist hangers in tight spots.  Kind of hard to shoot rafter straps through truss mending plates.  Positive Placement works great for that though.  If I don't feel like dragging out the air hose I use a 3lb sledgehammer,  two or three shots with that is all it takes.

  5. pjmcgarvey | Mar 14, 2006 04:23pm | #7

    I have the Harbor Freight nailer, $20, paid for itself in one day doing joist hangers.  Little bit of a learning curve to get them to work quickly and efficiently, but again, paid for itself and worked very well. 

    I think they sell two different models, I large one was not available at the store when I went, so I got the smaller one which can't handle the larger nail heads.  But I was nailing 8d commons just fine with it.

    PJ

    1. joeh | Mar 14, 2006 05:34pm | #8

      Little bit of a learning curve to get them to work

      Those Simpson hanger nails with the little logo on the head don't like to sit straight on the magnet. PITA using those.

      Joe H

       

  6. rasconc | Mar 14, 2006 06:22pm | #9

    I have the cheapie that Lowes sells, Tradesman, and it has paid for itself at least ten times over.

    1. FastEddie | Mar 14, 2006 08:12pm | #10

      Ditto the tradesman.  Sometimes it makes all the difference.  getting into really tight spots, or awkward locations where you can't swing.  Buy a cheap one and it will be money well spent.

        

      "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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        RRooster | Mar 25, 2006 07:38pm | #11

        I use mine in spurts.  My only complaint is that 16d casing nails get stuck in the little piston and frustrate the heck out of me.  Then I put it away for a while.

        Real good on joist hangar nails, just make sure you get them started straight.

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    trout | Mar 25, 2006 10:11pm | #12

    I have the cheaper Senco model sold at HD and after using a week my carp buddy picked one up for himself.  HD has Senco framing nailers packed with a free palm nailer if you need a new framing nailer as well.

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    JeffBuck | Mar 26, 2006 08:28am | #13

    have a Bostitch that I wish I had in the van last week.

    usually only drive it around when I'm doing decks or framing ...

    this was a small bath subfloor replacement.

    Turned out the sub near the tub was shot ...

    so I had to run framing support under the tub ... perp to the parallel joists ...

     

    ran a 2x4 ledge on the "underneath" joist ... and 2x4 outriggers from the exposed joist ... only problem ... attaching that ledger ... which was inside a joist space ...

    and ... about 10 inches "under" the tub.

    lotsa bent nails and busted knuckles.

     

    thot about the palm nailer in the garage the whole time ...

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

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      NickNukeEm | Mar 26, 2006 09:08pm | #14

      Here's a little number that would solve some of those hard-to-reach hanger problems:

      http://www.hechinger.com/web/catalog/product_detail.aspx?pid=83279&srccode=cii_9686437&cpncode=09-8356072-2

      Pretty expensive glorified palm nailer, and I usually use mine with stailess steel nails/hangers, so the magnet on a standard palm nailer doesn't work.  If the 10d nails came in stainless strips, I would be all over this thing.

       "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

      1. KeithJMazz | Mar 26, 2006 10:15pm | #15

        I don't believe you are talking about a cheap palm nailer. First of all buy good equipment. I have a Porta Cable palm nailer which I have used many times during joist work, beam installation and framing alterations. It payed for itself in minutes. I believe in the tool doing the job, not brawn. The gun comes with fittings for finish, common, and spike nails and a head for correcting deformed metal. Buy it and you will appreciate it.

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          NickNukeEm | Mar 26, 2006 10:50pm | #16

          Are you talking about the PC, or Grip-Rite?  Sorry, it isn't clear which one you're referring to. 

          I have both a Senco and Bostitch, and have good things to say about each, but I tried out the Grip-Rite this past weekend at the JLC show, and it sank a 10d just like any other (much cheaper) palm nailer.  The only difference between the G-R and any other (my Bostitch came with a finish nail nose piece as well) is the strip nail feed.  At $249 vs. $100 for a standard nailer (that takes loose nails you can buy anywhere) it doesn't seem like the value is there. 

          But, if someone shoots connectors all day every day, I can see the advantage.  In my case, the value just isn't there. 

          But as I said, if they had stainless strips, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, as I use lots of 10d stainless nails in stainless hangers for decks and porches.

           "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

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        JeffBuck | Mar 27, 2006 01:31am | #17

        that's kinda cool loking ...

        never saw such an animal.

         

        still woulda been a PITA getting that thing into the joist bay ... but woulda looked really cool doing it!

        I could see a use for it ...

        but till then ... the old standby will have to do.

        Jeff    Buck Construction

         Artistry In Carpentry

             Pittsburgh Pa

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          NickNukeEm | Mar 27, 2006 01:35am | #18

          Saw an identical nailer at the Senco booth at JLC. 

          I've got to replace a bathroom floor this next week, probably replacing a few rotting joists along the way.  My palm nailer is on the truck and ready to serve, thank you very much.  They do make things easy in a pinch.

           "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

          1. jpeeks | Mar 27, 2006 01:48am | #19

            off the topic a little,but does anyone know how to get a glove for a bostitch palm nailer? I cant find mine and I miss it after a few hangers. 

  9. girlbuilder | Mar 27, 2006 02:28am | #20

    I bought a used porter cable palm nailer on ebay about two years ago and its been indispensable for tight spots. Because it works by direct repeated percussion on the nail, it can get kinda tiring on your hand and wrist as your palm receives a lot of the impact. I wouldn't recommend using it for long periods, but to help out it saves lots time and your thumbs.

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