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   PeterJ | Oct 21, 2009 10:44pm | #1

   Any advice?

   RUN!

   My experience with self stick is that it doesn't..... OK, maybe on a sheet of clean glass, but not in the real world.

   I've heard of people using flooring adhesive in addition to the peel& stick, which I would do if I had to use the stuff.

   Grout joints in vinyl? Regular tile grout? That's a new one to me. I'd be skeptical.

   Can she find no sheet vinyl she likes, gotta be a zillion patterns, just not at Lowe's.

    

   Everything will be okay in the end.  If it's not okay, it's not the end. 

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   frammer52 | Oct 22, 2009 12:46am | #2

   Grout joints in vinyl? Regular tile grout? That's a new one to me. I'd be skeptical>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    

   I actually have seen it, doesn't look bad.  Remember some people can't afford the best material.

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   barmil | Oct 22, 2009 04:26am | #3

   I don't know about sticking. I used a luan subfloor coated with a sealer before laying the vinyl tiles in a rental, and there've been no adhesion problems. I wouldn't leave any gaps between tiles, however. These were the upper quality tiles, not the ninety-nine centers, and they had little flex. Having flex like the cheap tiles, to me, would be a great contributor to adhesive failure.

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   cargin | Oct 22, 2009 05:51am | #4

   webby

   I have done alot of peel and stick.

   Never the grouted ones. I wanted a smooth surface without dirt catchers.

   I like to have new subfloor, and then seal with the recommended sealer for peel and stick.

   The stuff I used was a Harvey's product.

   Some boxes stick like crazy and others  seem kind of lame.

   So far I have not had any adhesion issues. But surface prep is the key.

   Rich

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   Huck | Oct 22, 2009 06:05am | #5

   surface prep is the key

   that was my thought too.  I've never used the stuff, but a friend did, and it looked ok.  But applying to a clean and flat surface is the key.View Image my website

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   cargin | Oct 22, 2009 06:12am | #6

   Huck

   I have installed them for a couple of clients and in some rental property.

   In rentals I have been disappointed in the performace of vinyl flooring.

   Renters can really put a gouge in a vinyl floor.

   The peel and stick seems tougher.

   I always think I can just replace one tile, but the big box stores rotate the colors and styles, so you need to keep extras on hand.

   When I tried to replace a tile it was no easy task. I had to use a heat gun to get the old tile lifted.

   Rich

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   Huck | Oct 22, 2009 06:17am | #7

   I had to use a heat gun to get the old tile lifted.

   Yup.  That's how you get'm off!View Image my website

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   DaveRicheson | Oct 22, 2009 01:11pm | #8

   I'm like you.

   I have done several over  correctly prepped underlayment and over concrete. Some were Armstrong and others were what ever flavor a big box had on sales and the client bought.

   Had to take one out that I had installed  20+ years earlier. A sewer line install had cut right through the middle of it and the client was going to refinish the area with carpet. Heat gun and a stiff scapper took it all up. but very slowly. I think that one was an Armstrong job.

   20+ years of life  is pretty good IMO. For the ease of installation and product life, I wouldn't hesitate to install it.

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   webby | Oct 22, 2009 03:02pm | #9

   Thanks everyone for the input. The client is not sure but may do the peel and stick.

   I have done some peel and stick too, and never had an adhesion problem. However I haven't used these that have the option to grout.

   Thanks again.

   Webby