Guys,
Issue 186 had an article about new types of electrical boxes. The article shows two ceiling boxes that you can use if your fixture falls right on a ceiling joist. Does anyone know who makes those boxes and where online I can get them? I have that exact situation. I have too many wires to use a pancake box.
Thanks.
Frank R.
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I've seen them called saddle boxes and are usually rated for fan support. They do just what they say and "Saddle" the joist. It is pancake depth at the joist and deep in either side of it. Not a charm to work with, but much better than a pancake.
I think I got mine at Menards or HD. IIRC, it came with a margarine lid like cover to hold in the bits and pieces or it had the two big wood screws snapped into special holders.
I conld not find a good pick or link to the one I used, but I did find this "Side-saddle" version.
http://www.doityourself.com/invt/u611642
Arlington makes a number of specialised boxes like that.
http://www.aifittings.com/whnew77.htm
http://www.aifittings.com/whnew56.htm
http://www.aifittings.com/n_1.htm
http://www.aifittings.com/n_2.htm
This one does not offer any more wiring space. But it is interesting and posting for the luckers.
http://www.aifittings.com/n_3.htm
Here is the whole list.
http://www.aifittings.com/arliprod_n.htm
The have several side mounts if you can ofset it by 3/4"
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Tell us why you can't just move the fixture location 2".
Ralph,
As part of a remodel, I'm hanging two light fixtures over a kitchen island. The ceiling is completely sheetrocked. Electric is already in the ceiling (coiled up). The fixtures are about 15 pounds each. I planned on using an old work fan brace that spreads between the joists. However, the kitchen is below a bathroom and I have pvc drains running in my joist bay (both parallel and perpendicular to the joists). So, my fan brace would be pushing against the drain pipe, no matter how I tried to install it. I also can't use a standard old work ceiling box with wings because I'm not comfortable the sheetrock would hold the weight of the fixture. I can't move to the next bay because I have the same issues with supply pipes. To get a secure mount, I want to attached the box to the joist, but I need a little more space to fit the wires. When the electric was being roughed out, we were not sure where the island would be located, so we coiled up the cable and left it in the ceiling until the cabinets were in. The boxes in the article should work great. Thanks for your help.
Frank R.
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why you couldn't use the bar brace and move the box over a little.
Thanks to everyone for the responses. I ordered the boxes online and they are on their way.
Frank R.
The ones I've worked with have a shallow box with one side deep. There's enough room in there for two #14 cables, but that's about all. I got mine at either HD or Lowes (I forget which). IIRC, I also saw one the has deep sections on each side, with the joist running between the two. Lowes web site shows that one as Item #19841.