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Bar soap in stud bays?

user-245586 | Posted in General Discussion on December 16, 2006 12:32pm

A good friend of mine is rehabbing his house. He called me over one day to show me something that confused him. When I showed up he asked if I had ever seen, or heard of people putting bars of soap in their walls? After saying no, he took me to the back of his house, were he had removed old 3/4″ T&G pine from his walls. In each stud bay there is fire blocking about 4′ from the floor, and a new bar of soap sitting in each bay on the fire blocking. It looks like the house was build in the late 40’s to early 50’s, with a possible remodel in that back west facing room. Does anyone have an idea as to why this was done? 

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  1. User avater
    PaulBinCT | Dec 16, 2006 12:34am | #1

    Pest control...

  2. BillBrennen | Dec 16, 2006 12:36am | #2

    3 things come to mind.

    1. Most soap has perfume in it. Maybe they wanted a "clean-smelling" home.

    2. Possibly it discourages some sort of pest?

    3. Superstition.

    Bill

  3. JohnT8 | Dec 16, 2006 12:42am | #3

    That's a new one on me.  I've never found soap in a wall.  Razor blades are pretty common though.

     

    jt8

    "When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell

    1. highfigh | Dec 16, 2006 02:19am | #9

      Razor blades, as in they slid them into the gap on the side of the medicine cabinet and they fell into the wall? I found some in my house.
      "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

      1. davem | Dec 16, 2006 02:43am | #13

        old medicine cabinets had a slot in the middle for dropping razor blades in to dispose of them safely in the wall cavity.

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          BillHartmann | Dec 16, 2006 02:45am | #14

          "dispose of them safely"Define SAFELY!.
          .
          Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.

          1. kate | Dec 16, 2006 05:32pm | #21

            Hi, Bill -

            Here's a note from an old English teacher who is slowly being driven (more) nuts by your new tagline -

            It's "Hey, every group....."

          2. brownbagg | Dec 16, 2006 06:37pm | #23

            just turn the tag lines off

          3. kate | Dec 16, 2006 10:52pm | #30

            Duh!  How?

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            Sphere | Dec 16, 2006 11:44pm | #32

            Go to "my Forums"..."preferences"  click the box that says "hide signatures"...hit "sumit" an yer golden.

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          5. kate | Dec 17, 2006 09:43pm | #41

            Thanks!  Great thing about BT is that I keep learning new stuff!

          6. Dave45 | Dec 17, 2006 07:17am | #36

            Bill -

            Actually, that was a very safe way to dispose of those old razor blades.  They were never going to see the light of day again - until someone opened the wall cavity.  They were safer in the wall than in the trash can where someone (like a kid) may slice open a finger digging something out.

            When/if I see one of those old medicine cabinets, I know to be careful if I'm opening the cavity. - lol

      2. JohnT8 | Dec 16, 2006 07:19am | #19

        yesjt8

        "When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us." -- Alexander Graham Bell

      3. rasconc | Dec 16, 2006 08:39pm | #25

        The old (at least mid-late 50's) medicine cabinets had a slot in back to drop used safety razor blades.  Even marked on cabinet.

        1. highfigh | Dec 16, 2006 09:16pm | #27

          My house didn't have the original cabinets but the blades were in there.I did find a postcard when I removed the bad attempt at covering the original ironing board insert in the rental, though. Postmarked 40 years to the day that I found it."I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

          Edited 12/16/2006 1:18 pm by highfigh

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            JDRHI | Dec 16, 2006 09:33pm | #28

            Postmarked 40 years to the day that I found it.

            You should write back.

            Maybe get a movie deal out of it.

            Happy

            Holidays 

          2. highfigh | Dec 17, 2006 01:28am | #34

            Actually, it was confirmation for dental surgery so I think I'll pass.
            "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

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            SamT | Dec 17, 2006 06:05am | #35

            Tell 'em you're sorry that you missed the appointment.

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

             

            How's that, Kate?SamT

            Now if I could just remember that I am a businessman with a hammer and not a craftsman with a business....."anonymous". . .segundo <!----><!----> 

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    BillHartmann | Dec 16, 2006 12:45am | #4

    Do you have any idea of a brand or type?

    At that age was a pure soap, homemade lye soap, or a detergent soap?

    In the dim, very dim recess of my mind I think that I have heard an old wifes tale about using soap as a repellant.

    .
    .
    Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
    1. user-245586 | Dec 16, 2006 12:49am | #5

      The brand of bar soap is, Lever Brothers , Cambridge, Mass.

  5. Piffin | Dec 16, 2006 01:09am | #6

    around here, some people drill h9oles in soap and string it on a rope to dangle around the garden in the belief that it repells deer. I guess it does, until they get used ot it in a few weeks

    but I know for a fact that mice will eat soap

    I've never heard of it repelling insects

    So I was leaning to the perfume smell deodorizer theory, but I don't know if Lever used perfumes.

     

     

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      Sailfish | Dec 16, 2006 01:54am | #7

      I cannot imagine for the life of me why someone would have to worry about deer in their walls.

       

      This is an interesting thread though-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

       

      WWPD

      1. CAGIV | Dec 17, 2006 08:18am | #37

        How about a deer running through a window and bouncing off the walls in a house?

        We have a client who seems to be disaster prone, anyway on one occasion a deer crashed through their front window.  Mind you this is a residential neighborhood that has some wooded land around it, not a house buried in the trees.

        The deer crashed through a window on the front of the house (the side not facing the trees).  It was maybe 21" wide and 5' or so tall... with between the glass blinds...

        You want to see a bloody mess, take a look at a house after a deer cuts the hell out of itself busting through a window then proceeds to bounce off the walls for a while unitl someone arrives and opens some doors...

         

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          jhausch | Dec 17, 2006 05:40pm | #38

          It is my understanding the deer is charging its reflection; unlike birds who think the reflection of the sky is real sky. 

          I have also been told that shiny pinwheels suction cupped to the window help prevent this disaster.

          I have a customer that was describing this to me in the context of watching a buck through his window get "aggressive".  It was daytime and the light was just-so to make the window very mirror like from outside.  He went out a side door to scare it off, then went and bought the pinwheels.

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            hammer1 | Dec 17, 2006 08:38pm | #40

            Known as partridge up here, ruffed grouse often whack somebody's window. Like deer, they live in wooded habitat and head for what they see as a daylight opening. They don't see the window or a reflection, they look right past it for a place to go. Back on topic, I heard that soap will break the scent trail that ants follow. At one time, ants must have been a wide spread nuisance in the home. Ant traps were common on kitchen cabinets and storage containers. I'm restoring a Hoosier cabinet and just bought some traps for the feet that would have been original.Beat it to fit / Paint it to match

    2. highfigh | Dec 16, 2006 02:20am | #10

      "but I know for a fact that mice will eat soap"Do they leave a trail of bubbles when they run through the house?
      "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

      1. nailbanger | Dec 17, 2006 07:31pm | #39

        "Do they leave a trail of bubbles when they run through the house?"

        only when they pass gas...

  6. ronbudgell | Dec 16, 2006 02:18am | #8

    Rat detector. If there's no soap in your wall, you might have rats. If there's soap - no rats.

    Ron

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      Sphere | Dec 16, 2006 02:24am | #11

      Slight hijack alert.

      Thanks!  Your package went out Monday or Tues..I forget for sure.

      It is a very cool tool, and sharp.

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      I have irriatable Vowel syndrome.

      1. ronbudgell | Dec 16, 2006 02:37am | #12

        It's a good thing to have in your hands from time to time.

        Ron

  7. ponytl | Dec 16, 2006 03:08am | #15

    if the soap contains borax it will in fact keep termites and roaches  away

    when i use to build commerical kitchens and bars I'd always put powered borax in the stud bays  seemed to work...  I know for a fact nothing was as bad as the pawn shops i use to have... think of who pawns nice warm inside electronic and microwaves ( back when these things had some value)   anyway i started put it in the stud bays of the pawnshops also.... no roaches...  I still own one building with a pawnshop in it... and it still has never had a bug problem and i built that 15yrs ago

    p



    Edited 12/15/2006 11:20 pm ET by ponytl

    1. ANDYSZ2 | Dec 16, 2006 07:03am | #16

      You gonna do the same thing to the condo walls  before you close them up?

      ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?

      REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST

       

      1. ponytl | Dec 16, 2006 07:19am | #18

        was think'n that i would... pretty sure i have a 55gal drum of the stuff somewhere...

        I still owe you lunch....  i know ur busy but...... i know u eat

        p

         

        1. ANDYSZ2 | Dec 16, 2006 12:28pm | #20

          Waiting for a rainy day

          ANDYSZ2WHY DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT BEING A SOLE PROPRIETOR IS A REAL JOB?

          REMODELER/PUNCHOUT SPECIALIST

           

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          RichBeckman | Dec 16, 2006 10:10pm | #29

          "pretty sure i have a 55gal drum of the stuff somewhere..."

          Of course.

          :)

          Rich BeckmanThis signature line intentionally left blank.

  8. rez | Dec 16, 2006 07:07am | #17

    perhaps the house had leg cramps?

     

     
    damn, am I fat!

    1. Danno | Dec 16, 2006 10:55pm | #31

      I was thinking the same thing--putting bars of soap under the sheets or rubbing the sheets with soap is supposed to stop leg cramps. Haven't tried that yet!

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    user-246028 | Dec 16, 2006 06:34pm | #22

    I'm only guessing here but I think that is an old fashon fire supression system. The purpose behind fire blocking is to slow the progress of a fire burning through the walls of your house. By placing a bar of soap on top of the fire block it seams  to me that the bar of soap would likely melt making it more difficult for the fire to burn through  the block.

    1. Shep | Dec 16, 2006 08:16pm | #24

      Hey, Doc-

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        user-246028 | Dec 16, 2006 08:47pm | #26

        Yea, I'm having a blast!

        Good to meet you Shep

        1. Shep | Dec 17, 2006 01:25am | #33

          one suggestion that will help all of us- click on your name, and fill out your profile, so we can get an idea of who you are, and where your from.

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