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Base and corwn on rounded corner walls

FlyingContractor | Posted in Construction Techniques on July 10, 2007 07:36am

Hey Guys,

I’m working a remodel in a 90s tract house where the owner wants to dress things up with a decorative base and crown detail.  Problem is the sheetrock is all finished with quarterround metal corners.  Anyone deal with the void between the back of the trim and the rock corners?  I think filling it with caulk is going to look pretty sloppy.

Thanks!

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  1. CAGIV | Jul 10, 2007 07:40am | #1

    When we encounter it I know of two options.

    Either round the corner with two 22.5 degree pieces or make it square, the caulk gap like you mentioned is bogus, we've made our own "filler pieces" for paint grade and used a product I believe trim-tec puts out.  It is a plastic filler piece that makes the corner square.

    I offer our customers an option showing them pictures of both to see which they prefer.

     

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  2. dovetail97128 | Jul 10, 2007 08:00am | #2

    There are premade corner blocks available for the 3/4" bullnose corners.
    At least I can buy them here through my yard.

    Another method is to cut a small piece of base with 22 1/2 deg. angles and match those angles with 22 1/2 deg angle cuts on the ends of the long runs of base.
    The small piece is approximately 3/4" long at the bottom. We call those pieces "Finger Biters" . If you aren't very comfortable with using a power miter saw do not try this using one.

    Yet another is to make up a box that is 3" x 3" inside dimension, and about 4" high.
    Cut four blocks off of 1 1/2' clear stock and insert them into the box, end grain facing up. Now take an 1 1/2' Forstener or spade bit and centering it on the center of the box with the blocks in it drill out the blocks. That will make four rectangular block corners with a 3/4" radius. Cut your long runs to the angle that you have when you center the blocks on the corner of the wall.
    Top of the blocks can be profiled as desired.
    If the blocks aren't deep enough to cover the end grain of the base then make them 2" x 2" and adjust the box size.

    Same effect can be gotten by cutting a 4 x 4 into 4" tall pieces and drilling out it's center then ripping it into 4 pieces.

    "Poor is not the person who has too little, but the person who craves more."...Seneca

  3. Ragnar17 | Jul 10, 2007 08:03am | #3

    Somebody here has posted pictures related to this problem, but I can't remember who it was.

    What they did was to use a radiused piece at the outside corners.  This piece was "moulded" in the old sense of the word, meaning it was formed out of some sort of compound.  It looked really nice.

    You might be able to find the pictures by using the search function (it's not great, but it's a start).

    If you're lucky, the guy might see your post here.

    1. alrightythen | Jul 10, 2007 08:58am | #5

      they have premade pieces for base, as was already mentioned. How is a formed piece any different - or easier?

      or are you talking about a formed crown piece? I'd like to see that.....except that I don't really like the round corners to begin with.   View Image                                          View Image    

      1. Ragnar17 | Jul 10, 2007 08:34pm | #6

        The guy I was talking about used some sort of "clay-like" compound and then formed it in situ with a knife.  The process was very similar (conceptually) to the colonial-era process of forming mouldings with a draw knife.

        I can't remember how much time he said it took.  It's probably like anything else: a steep learning curve followed by increased proficiency to the point that it's not overly labor intensive.

        I'm not generally a fan of radiused corners, either (especially sheetrock), but the results looked very nice.  And in the case of the OP, the small radii are already there, so he's more or less stuck with them now.

         

        1. rasher | Jul 11, 2007 12:03am | #7

          I had the pleasure of attending a party in a 2 million dollar house in the hoity toity part of town that had the aforementioned bullnose wall corners, and caulked gap between the outside corner of wall and inside corner of trim.
          If it's good enough for the "wealthy", then its good enough for me...Beat to fit, paint to match...

          1. Ragnar17 | Jul 11, 2007 06:30am | #10

            ...2 million dollar house in the hoity toity part of town that had the aforementioned bullnose wall corners, and caulked gap between the outside corner of wall and inside corner of trim.

            There seems to be lots of people with more money than common sense these days, doesn't it?  ;)

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      basswood | Jul 11, 2007 05:01am | #8

      This might be what you are thinking of...not my work (I lifted these pics from JLC):

      1. Ragnar17 | Jul 11, 2007 06:28am | #9

        That's the one --- thanks!

  4. alrightythen | Jul 10, 2007 08:54am | #4

    This topics has been covered before. here is a link to thread when I had the same question. I seem to recall finding other threads as well.

    http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=71848.1

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