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Basement Redo

bk73 | Posted in General Discussion on September 10, 2009 01:42am

Hi –

I’m redoing my basement and am looking for some advice on the proposed layout for the bathroom and kitchen area. The space is limited to what is shown so I tried to maximize space using the corner shower and small vanity, also the corner sink for the kitchen.

Also, I was tryng to decide between wood studs or metal studs. I’m leaning towards metal, and using Roxul AFB insulation. From what I’ve read the Roxul AFB is made for metal studs as they are 16″ wide.

Also, I was planning on butting the metal studs up against the concrete to save space.

Any opinions on this plan of attack?

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    FatRoman | Sep 10, 2009 02:31am | #1

    Resized so you can get some advice.

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    1. excaliber32 | Sep 10, 2009 08:28pm | #6

      Consider metal hat channel for the block walls. They are only 7/8" thick and you will gain just a little but more floor space.

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    Jeff_Clarke | Sep 10, 2009 08:25am | #2

    Too tight at the toilet/shower!

  3. DickRussell | Sep 10, 2009 02:43pm | #3

    Which way does the bathroom door swing? If into the room, show the swing, then imagine standing inside and closing the door. Do you have to back into the shower stall to do it?

    1. bk73 | Sep 10, 2009 03:35pm | #4

      Actually I was going to do a pocket door for that reason.

      1. DickRussell | Sep 10, 2009 03:47pm | #5

        I noted again Jeff's comment about being tight at toilet/shower. That got me thinking about shower door swing. If you use a curtain, no problem. If a door, hinged next to the vanity almost looks like the door won't clear the toilet. If hinged on the toilet side, you'll need to back right against the wall or into the corner opposite the shower to open it.Make sure the toilet isn't an elongated bowl. You can save a couple of inches there. Look into toilets for close connect to the wall (10"?), the space saving models with round bowl.[Darn, I wish I could view the prior posts while composing a reply.]

        1. mikeroop | Sep 11, 2009 04:06am | #10

          scroll down while typing your reply and bingo! there is the post you r replying to .

          1. DickRussell | Sep 12, 2009 05:58pm | #11

            Oh, I know the one I am replying to is down there, but not the ones before that. Sometimes I get part way through a reply, want to refer to an earlier one, and I can't see them. To avoid losing what I have typed I mark it all, Ctrl-C, back-screen to whatever I wanted to see, then come back, start the reply again, and Ctrl-V to paste back what I saved but subsequently lost when I went back. On some forums, the whole thread is viewable while composing. That's life.

          2. bk73 | Sep 12, 2009 08:27pm | #12

            I realize that the layout is not optimal, but aren't you only required to have 30" width between walls for a toilet?I would rather have a 40" corner shower and less space around the toilet than a couple of extra inches around the toilet and a 36" or 38" corner shower. Everything I read says go with the largest corner shower possible.Thanks.

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            NickNukeEm | Sep 13, 2009 12:43am | #13

            Why not just open another tab, or window?  Two monitors makes it easy, but tabbing thru multiple open windows is easy as well.

             "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."  Invictus, by Henley.

          4. bk73 | Sep 13, 2009 03:21pm | #14

            Would you use dry-lock on the basement walls or just leave the concrete bare? Also, we don't have any water issues so I'm not trying to stop water from coming in.

            Edited 9/13/2009 8:28 am ET by bk73

          5. DickRussell | Sep 13, 2009 05:27pm | #15

            Good idea, seems to work. Good point.

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        CapnMac | Sep 10, 2009 09:14pm | #7

        was going to do a pocket door

        You will want to run some plywood instead of wall board at 24" above the floor next to the toilet, or, you'll have no way to mount the paper roll (unless you are planning on gluing it to the shower wall).

        You can put a piece of paint-grade or stain-grade (to match the rest of the finish) to cover the ply.

        But, really, that space is too tight.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

  4. MikeHennessy | Sep 10, 2009 09:25pm | #8

    Regarding your masonry walls -- below grade? If so, Building Sciences recommends 2" of foam, then studs. You can glue the foam to the wall, then install hat chanel over the foam, tapconned to the wall through the foam, or you can use 1-5/8" metal studs to keep thickness to a minimum. The idea is to create a thermal & vapor break between the walls and framing.

    http://www.buildingscience.com/documents/information-sheets/5-thermal-control/basement-insulation/

    Mike Hennessy
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Everything fits, until you put glue on it.

  5. wooderson | Sep 11, 2009 01:24am | #9

    You might want to consider wood studs in your basement walls. It seems like steel would be less likely to harbor mold, but wood studs retain some moisture and prevent it from causing problems on other surfaces.

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