Hi everyone,
Just joined this discussion forum. I recently started my own side handyman/ light construction business and am doing my first “professional” bathroom remodel. I am providing an estimate for the first time. I am located in Orange County NY and am looking for some input on offering the going rates for bathroom remodels. I was thinking in the neighborhood of $7000 including all materials and labor for a basic bathroom. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
Tim
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Tim, go by Orange County Choppers when they are filming and stand in the background with "Tim" in red letters painted on your shirt so we can see what you look like.
I guess you could say your building a bathroom, "outdoors". We have lots of those here in Texas.
Just kidding. Welcome to BT.
You would do well to get advice from BT Members in your area, but I know we would all need more info on the remodel before answering.
Can you provide a Scope of Work to be perfomed on the bathroom? They take many forms, but this would be something you would normally do as a part of a project.
Going rate on bathroom remodels is too vague. Information should include something like:
Bathroom Remodel / Bathroom is 110 SF with shower and salon tub of cultured marble / ceramic tile floor / painted cabinets / cultured marble countertop with 2 sinks / full length vanity mirrors / 2 vanity light fixtures / exhaust fan / linen closet / painted trim and interiror doors / etc.
Demo: remove tub and tub surround / shower / shower enclosure / toilet / countertop and cabinet / tile floor covering / water damaged sheetrock / ect.
Install new blah, blah, blah.
A bathroom remodel could be new fixtures and paint of a 5' x 8' bathroom or a comlete gut and redo of a 16' x 14' bathroom with lots of fancy bathroom stuff. Pricing could easily vary by a ratio 30 to 1 or more. These days you can pay $2,200.00 for a vertical spa shower fixture or $110.00 for a shower fixture.
Some BT Members like to provide a quote of $99,950.00 for almost any project, especially when the questions are as vague as yours.
Love to help, but you're way short on information.
Never mind the issue of us not knowing what the labor rate is in your area, or what your overhead costs are. More basic is determining the scope of work. Some bath remodels include new finishes and fixtures. Some include relocating plumbing and electrical. What's on your menu?
And never mind that guy from Houston. I'll do it for $79,995.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Edited 4/26/2006 6:39 pm ET by FastEddie
And never mind that guy from Houston. I'll do it for $79,995
Yeah, never mind the guy from Santonio, neither
I'll do a "bathroom renovation" for $60,102.38, includes travel to O.C. NY, but that's no licensed trade-work, no wall penetrations, or wall cavity exposure, no remediation; but does include client hand holding and psychological counseling, but does not include presentation materials <g>, oh, and only for a maximum of 6 days, including travel.
I've done bathroom remos from $100 to the current record, $39K (gut rehab & expansion with major structural rework due to moisture/insects). Without being able to pull up my biz spreadsheets, and cobble together a fruit-to-fruit comparision, I'd guess that the median invoiced price for a gut-level rehab I've done will be around $6-10K. Note that is a clean guess. Note, too, that I couldn't back it up except by filtering the projects for similarities, too.
Just on memory, none of the "remodels" were the same (even in matching houses by a single builder). Some of that is in folks just not wanting to pay for a gut-level, bare studs rehab--even if that's what they need (or must have). Some of that, you just never know what you will find under the finished surfaces. (Do not ask about the $10K "towel bar" project.)
What you will likely need to develop is a feel (then a spreadsheet) for things like, tear out tile (and separate categories for floor, wall, enclosure, ceiling, etc.) That will then embrace a figure for installing tile. Same for plumbing fixtures, for grab bars, for GFCI outlets, what ever.
Bathrooms are unique that way--they've got work by just about every trade o nthe jobsite in them.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Can you tell about the $10K "towel bar" project?
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Can you tell about the $10K "towel bar" project?
I could, but, I'd like to have to need some sort of adjustment again . . .
Think of everything that could go wrong with a simple project--and it did.
Here's the contracted scope of the project: Remove one 36" towel bar; replace with two, stacked 24" towel bars. Final financial cost to customer--over 100 c-notes. Financial cost to contractor--close to eleven c-notes in bills; another 7 in fees, retainers, etc. Drive-away cost for 7 towel bars, under 1 c-note.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
The going rate in Orange county NY is the same as the going rate everywhere for a business that desires to remain afloat.
It's the cost of materials and labor plus any overhead you may have along with some profit.
You can only base this on your requirements and nobody elses.
Figure out costs and bid achordingly. Don't ever try being the low bidder, you'll sink.
Just qoute 'em $89,995 and we'll hire Ed to do it and split the difference while drinking a few cold ones.
Hey, I can build a bathroom for seven grand outdoors
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I heard that all the bathrooms in your neck of the woods are outside, and they have half-moon cutouts in the doors. And the high-dollar ones have two seats!
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Actually, I think you have to be further inland, probably as far as Kentucky or even Texas to rate a structure, let alone a two holer with a half-moon cutout.
I think in Piff's neck of the woods the facilities come as a DIY kit - One shovel and a bag of lime.
Does that come with a hinged board to cover the hole when not in use? Leave that out and I ain't payin. And I want a moon-and-stars cutout in the door too.
Hey, here in Ohia we got a dognut lookin' thang that lifts up too. On a big job I even supply a bucket to keep the corn cobs in. I do have a serious question tho, do you run the electric for the exhaust fan (ya know they are code in any bathroom) underground or thru the trees?Mother nature will out live us all.
I install wind-up fans on most of my bath jobs. You can wind the handle while you're sitting there and it will spin for a while after you leave.
I wouldn't touch that "wind the handle" line with a ten foot pole.
Ahhh... you're the imaginative type!
Lets see, I do about 8 bathrooms a year. First one this year was a gorgeous sandstone floor and custom shower w/a curved fluted shower door, 10' of hickory cabinets,w/sandstone counter and sink, all new electric & Plumbing final cost $35,854.67. Next was a 5X8 change out fixtures and move some electric w/ new ceiling fan, paint and trim, finished cost $7,549.50. Both jobs included fixtures in the cost. I actually made more money on the 5x8 than the big job, but the big job was a lot more fun.
I was going to say... that big one sounds closer to $99,500.