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Bathtub & surround retrofit

| Posted in General Discussion on May 8, 2000 01:45am

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Probably a dumb question but I don’t normally do remodeling type work. I need to install a bathtub and surround. There is a wall on 3 sides of the tub area. Can’t get a one piece tub/shower combo unit in the house (small doors, etc) so will have to go with a tub and one of those 3 piece surround kits for the walls. The material that these units will be made of is fiberglass/acrylic. My question is: Is the tub and surround intended to be installed on top of the (green) drywall or in liew of the drywall? Or in other words, will the drywall or the surround & tub go in first? There is enough room to do it either way. Or, do install the tub, then the drywall on the walls, then the surround on the drywall. Tile is not in the budget.

Thanks in advance.

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  1. Guest_ | May 03, 2000 02:16pm | #1

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    Mike -

    I suppose there are different techniques for everything, but I think it's best to have the walls stripped down to the framing, and insert the tub first. You'll want a tub that has a "tile edge" on three sides. Then, if the opening is already the right size (about 1/4" bigger than the tub), you're good to go. If not, pack the framing to get it where you want it. Make sure you take the time now to put in blocking for any grab bars, shower enclosures, and it's usually a good idea to put in solid blocking around the rim of the tub. Then drywall with green board, leaving it up off the edge of the tub about 1/4"-1/2". The material for your surround should finish down over the raised tile edge.

    One last bit of advice, FWIW. Taking some time to straighten out the studs so that your drywall is nice and flat will save a lot of headaches when you go to glue the surround in place. Good luck.

    1. Guest_ | May 03, 2000 08:01pm | #2

      *Mike, you can get those FG/acrylic tub/shower units in 2-piece units made for remodeling. It should fit through your doors.

      1. Guest_ | May 04, 2000 12:29am | #3

        *Mike,It sounds like you're talking about a FB/ acrylic tub & walls for new construction. These are made with a flange to attach to the framing. The drywall then is attached over that flange after proper shimming. These units are much more substantial than the cheap glue on plastic walls. I have had a lot of luck with these new construction units, and if tile isn't in the budget, they are the way to go. The walls go into a channel on the top of the tub, and the end result is no caulk and no leaks.Good luck,Red dog

        1. Guest_ | May 04, 2000 05:12am | #4

          *I guess I should have clarified that I was talking about a cast iron tub. I don't know have much experience with acrylic tubs.

          1. Guest_ | May 04, 2000 08:10pm | #5

            *go with the two or three piece tub... acrylic if they can afford it... fiberglass if they can't..the wall kits are bogus.. even buying the best quality and the thickest , we've had nothing but troubles trying to get them to install flat and stay flat... if you have an existing tub.. i'd still try to upgrade to tile.. but you gotta do what ya gotta do...green board first.... or durock.. then the wall kit..someties you can install some strategically placed grab bars to help secure the wall kit.. so put some blocking in if you are so inclined..

          2. Guest_ | May 05, 2000 07:18am | #6

            *Mike, after reading your post, I agree with Red Dog. I recently had my plumber install a unit (I think Vikrell by Sterling) similar to what you're talking about. Much sturdier than the glue on panels some here mention. It went up over bare framing, with green board with J-bead installed over the 1 1/2" - 2" nailing flange. Good luck.Sean

  2. Mike_Rupp | May 07, 2000 03:18pm | #7

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    OK, guys. We went with a 2 pc fiberglass tub/shower combo. It was installed before drywall. I had to fir 1 wall out a bit to size the opening for the tub. Better the opening started too big than too small!

    Thanks much for your help!

    Mike

  3. Mike_Rupp | May 08, 2000 01:45am | #8

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    Probably a dumb question but I don't normally do remodeling type work. I need to install a bathtub and surround. There is a wall on 3 sides of the tub area. Can't get a one piece tub/shower combo unit in the house (small doors, etc) so will have to go with a tub and one of those 3 piece surround kits for the walls. The material that these units will be made of is fiberglass/acrylic. My question is: Is the tub and surround intended to be installed on top of the (green) drywall or in liew of the drywall? Or in other words, will the drywall or the surround & tub go in first? There is enough room to do it either way. Or, do install the tub, then the drywall on the walls, then the surround on the drywall. Tile is not in the budget.

    Thanks in advance.

  4. Guest_ | May 08, 2000 01:45am | #9

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    Mike,

    Make sure you get a good seal at the joint in the two sections on the open side. Whether doors or curtain, leaks seem to appear there, wick to the surrounding drywall (whether MR or reg.) and muck it up. I usally hold the drywall a little short of the plastic and fill the gap with a good grade of caulk. Best of luck.

  5. AaronsHardy2 | Jul 01, 2019 05:02am | #10

    Hay, you can get those FG/acrylic tub/shower units in 2-piece units made for remodeling. It should fit through your doors.

    Also, read bathtub installation guide below link
    https://www.bath1.com/blog/bathtub-installation-guide

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