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Bees in wall…oh my…

Jencar | Posted in General Discussion on October 21, 2003 04:40am

Stripping off old redwood siding to replace it with stucco in a fire hazard area, my daughter and I came across an old bee-hive in the wall. It completely filled a stud bay from the fire block to the top plate, and seemed abandoned. We thought that the occupants had been pestigated the last time the house was termited…

They started coming back a couple of days ago, maybe drawn by the scent of honey. This morning there were about 50 hanging around, so we doused em with wasp killer. We had pulled out the honey combs and tossed them, but honey keeps dripping down the wall…the stucco paper is soaking it up pretty well…
I’m wondering if it will eventually dry out, or will just keep seeping out through the stucco…oh well.

Anybody want about 500 feet of heartwood Redwood 1×12? I didn’t have the heart to throw it all out.

Jen

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  1. Taylorsdad | Oct 21, 2003 05:40am | #1

    Where are you?

    1. Jencar | Oct 22, 2003 06:40am | #6

      Burbank, CA.

      Jen

      1. Taylorsdad | Oct 22, 2003 05:18pm | #8

        Coa$t to coa$t.   Oh well. 

  2. BUSTER | Oct 21, 2003 05:46am | #2

    I WOULD BE INTERESTED...IF SOMEWHERE IN MY AREA (NORTH-EAST OREGON) !!

    1. Jencar | Oct 22, 2003 06:39am | #5

      We're in So-Cal, Burbank to be exact.

      It's painted on one side (guess they didn't believe in primering all surfaces) so on the other you can see the deep, rich red color.

      Wood siding just isn't practical in the canyons around here.

      Jen

  3. buyhoney | Oct 21, 2003 07:06am | #3

    I've removed a number of live beehives from a variety of structures. It is a mesy, sticky and sometimes stingy job to undertake. To 'dry up' the remaining honey ( which you want/need to do to keep bees from swarming back to this spot and to keep other pests away, like ants, wax moths, etc) take portland cement straight from the bag and very generously dust the affected area. Repeat as needed to dry up the honey. Most importantly seal off all access to that spot. They'll trying to establish a colony there for years to come because phermones will keep attracting bees back to it. One year I went back 3 times to the same building and removed colonies because the husband never' got around to' sealing it up

    Good luck 

    1. Jencar | Oct 22, 2003 06:33am | #4

      Thank you for the info...

      There's Portland on site waiting to be used to place flagstones...I'm sure they won't miss a few handfuls, if the critters come back.

      Since the stucco guy finished lathing the area, they seem to have taken off somewhere else.

      Jen

  4. TheOldCynic | Oct 22, 2003 07:07am | #7

    Anybody want about 500 feet of heartwood Redwood 1x12

    Sounds like a real sweet deal for someone.

    Sorry - - Couldn't resist

    Doc - The Old Cynic

  5. BowBear | Oct 22, 2003 06:41pm | #9

    There was a news item on the CBC a few years ago about a British family that found a sticky leak in their ceiling. The attic was full of honey, enough to bottle and sell. Apparently they made a good amount of money selling the honey at a roadside stand and to local stores.

    An ex-boat builder treading water!
    1. Jencar | Oct 22, 2003 07:33pm | #10

      My family loves honey in their tea...I just pictured a pipe with a tap running up into the ceiling next to the tea cabinet...mmmm. ;)

      (Are honey combs good for insulation?)

      Jen

  6. ward121 | Oct 22, 2003 07:55pm | #11

    I found one in my wall last winter, I was trying to find a leak in the wall. Sure glad the were gone for the winter.

    Ward

     

    1. Jencar | Oct 22, 2003 09:07pm | #12

      Not what you expect to see when you open a wall! That's what you get for not insulating...;)

      My ex-husband's mom had a hive in a wall, you could hear them buzzing through the paneling.

      Jen

      1. DaveRicheson | Oct 22, 2003 09:40pm | #14

        I am in rural KY, so when we found an active hide on our property, we called the county agricultural extension agent.

        It seems that the honey bees in this area of the country are dieing off because of some type of mite infestation. The University of Kentucky was willing to collect the bees if they survived the winter. Survival indicates a resistance to the mite and the queen of a resistant hive is highly sought after for cross breeding.

        If you have further problems with them, check with your local agricultural department. The loss of honey bees is slowly becoming a nationwide problem.

        Dave

        1. plantlust | Oct 23, 2003 02:53am | #15

          Right.  There are 2 kinds of mites that are decimating the European honey bees in North America.  The first attaches itself to the back of the head, sucking them until weakness and death occurs and the 2nd attaches itself to the trachea and ditto.  If the pollinator population plunges our food supply is in deep doodoo.  Apples, pears and tomatoes....POOF.

          If you've got an errant population in your house (and they should be honey bees NOT wasps) try to find a local beekeeper.  They will usually come out and pick them up for you, for free.This jobless recovery has done more to promote the consumption of exquisite chocolate than the finest chocolatier.  Cost be damned.

          1. ccal | Oct 23, 2003 03:02am | #16

            Bee keepers here wont take them if they are in a house or structure, so ive had to kill several hives myself. They will take them if they are outside in a tree or swarming though. I dont know why they wont take them, it may be a liability issue, but it was a shame to kill them.

          2. plantlust | Oct 23, 2003 03:34am | #17

            What a total waste.

            I'd be seriously tempted to get a hive and some DETAILED instructions and move them myself.  Happy am I that I don't have any allergies.  Wonder how much work they actually are to keep.This jobless recovery has done more to promote the consumption of exquisite chocolate than the finest chocolatier.  Cost be damned.

          3. buyhoney | Oct 23, 2003 06:34am | #18

            When I've removed live hives from structures, I always try to save the hive. It is very stressful to the hive and as a result have little success in their survival. It is a simple procedure, basically remove as much comb as possible while doing little damage as possible to the comb. And collect as many bees as possible ( a modified shop vac works great) Comb with bee brood (eggs) and if you can find the Queen great>. My survival rate has been @ 25%. I used to be a part time Beekeeper and learned alot. Keeping bees is fun but can be frustrating. So many things kill the colony. Last fall I had 38 hives and by spring had 3. Mites, diseaes, weather, bears, etc......   Fortunately I am a better Craftsman than beekeeper.............

            I'd bee happy to go into more details if the need arises.

  7. marv | Oct 22, 2003 09:30pm | #13

    I had a bee hive in the wall of my workshop once.  Pluged up the outside hole and waited for them to die.  The ate right through the drywall on an interior wall to get out.

    You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.

    Marv

  8. DDW | Oct 23, 2003 07:40pm | #19

    Bees are a problem in our rural Upstate NY area. Our procedure is that if there are active bees present you need to wait until at least dusk or a little beyond. Bees can't see very well and are dormant after the sun goes down, so waiting until dark greatly reduces the "sting factor." Dust the entire hive and surrrounding areas with dry Ortho Sevin (and wear a respirator, not a dust mask, and eye protection) and wait a couple of days. This should terminate the bees. As far as your honey-soaked walls. In a word... years. That's how long it will take to the honey to dry out. Your options aren't many. Cut out the honey-soaked wallboard and repair. Leaving the sticky sweet honey in there is an open invitation for bugs, pests and varments.

    1. Jencar | Oct 25, 2003 08:18pm | #20

      "Killer Bees" crossed my mind when we found the hive...they've been found several places in So-Cal, and are very aggressive if you get too close to their colony.

      We got as much as we could out before the stucco lath went on. A day after the first coat of stucco went on, it's still seeping out. The plaster/button board on the interior of the house is staying dry for some reason, tho.

      Thanks, Jen

      1. TRIGGER | Oct 25, 2003 09:00pm | #21

        Any takers on the wood yet? I'm doing a fire repair in Hollywierd, so I could pick it up and put it to some good use. Might even save a tree or half.         Triggerski

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