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best one coat wall paint

BIGJIM05 | Posted in General Discussion on July 8, 2006 04:37am

Would anyone like to recommend a good one coat wall paint?

I tried Martha Stewart (forgive me)  Also Dutch Boy. No such luck with one coat coverage of a similar color and white primer bleeds through also very easy with these.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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  1. User avater
    Sphere | Jul 08, 2006 04:44am | #1

    Don't know where you are..( profile helps)

    Porter Paints has a Permanizer at 43$ a gallon..I think it is PPG

    Incredible, self priming and all. This is ext I got, and it covered with a roller on preprimed stock in one coat. Also has a hell of a warranty, like 20 yrs ext apps.  Latex.

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    There is no cure for stupid. R. White.

  2. MSA1 | Jul 08, 2006 04:45am | #2

    The only thing i've found to effectively cover a wall in one coat is my kids with crayons.

    Seriously, i've NEVER painted a wall with one coat. I just plan to out to coats on. I'm not a painter but i've done my share of painting (even used a 1/2" nap) and still had to go back.

    Anyone else help here?  

    1. BIGJIM05 | Jul 08, 2006 04:51am | #3

      I'm in Chicago Illinois and I used to be able to buy SAXON brand paint until they went out of business. They really did cover in one coat but it has been years trying to find another.

      Thanks and if anyone else has an opinoin it is welcome

    2. Mooney | Jul 08, 2006 05:51am | #6

      "Seriously, i've NEVER painted a wall with one coat. I just plan to out to coats on. I'm not a painter but i've done my share of painting (even used a 1/2" nap) and still had to go back. "

      Well I am a painter I reckon just over the hill and gone .

      There is one way but its still two coats but quicker . I roll the paint till its running with an 1 1/2 roller nap from one corner to the next . Lambs wool only. It will start to set in thin places with the water leaving the top surface and get thicker. I run the wall dry known as back rolling but it isnt dry on the wall and it spreads it out even and thick. It is twice the millage as one coat so it is really two coats.

      I dont really care whose paint it is with in respect because anyones paint will cover two coats over a primer . Walmarts best does a hell of a job in two coats over primer . Its ruined before it wears out so why the expensive paint on an interior wall?

      Out side ? thats another dog in the hunt.

      Oh yea, this one coat phenomenon is advertizing crap. 45 dollars a gallon for one coat ? Please! What a bunch of crap. Send us your money. Ah the days of Jimmy Swaggart.

      Tim

      Edited 7/7/2006 10:55 pm by Mooney

  3. ph882 | Jul 08, 2006 04:56am | #4

    If you are trying to achieve coverage with one coat over white primer, there is no paint on the market to achieve that (that I'm aware of) with one coat. And if there is it certainly could not be found in a department store.I don't mean to sound rude, but You almost all ways get what you pay for. I would go with benjamin moore, SW Ect.

  4. vernissage | Jul 08, 2006 05:43am | #5

    One coat over what? color? type of surface ? age of existing paint...? There are alot of things to keep from getting a satisfactory coverage from one coat. Benjamin Moore is the industry standard for high quaulity paints, I've also had some real success with Pratt and Lambert. The few dollars more a gallon you pay for a top quality paint is worth every cent!

  5. fab4beck | Jul 08, 2006 06:00am | #7

    I have used alot of different paints in the 5 yrs I have been in the handyman business and I am just like everyone else I haven't seen a paint that I have used yet, but there are 2 of which I have seen that does cover real well. They are Pittsburg and walmart here carries a Kilz paint they do cover real well but have seen a few spots show up that made me go a head with my plan of a second coat.

    Scott

    Scott Beckett's Handyman Service

    Jack of all trades

    "Can't never did anything but can did"

     

  6. BryanSayer | Jul 08, 2006 06:07am | #8

    Try tinting the primer coat with shades of gray. Sherwin-Williams did some testing and found that about 5 shades of gray worked well, depending on how dark your top coat is. Our wallpaper person saw some tests with this and there were instances where one coat worked.

    I find that a big part of the coverage has to do with how flat the walls are. And I have plaster walls, so none of them are flat.

  7. paperhanger | Jul 08, 2006 01:31pm | #9

    Sorry, you need two coats on every surface, one will never do. Lap marks, brush marks, etc.  Try a flat paint for best results. Or spray, you can get good coverage with one coat.

  8. maverick | Jul 08, 2006 03:13pm | #10

    try tinting the primer first. stay away from Behr for sure (Behr-ly covers)

    I like Benny Moore

    1. peteshlagor | Jul 08, 2006 03:36pm | #11

      With the primer tinted 1/4 formula, and Benny Moore's paint, frequently, I get one coat coverage.  But that one coat takes as much effort as two.  You gotta roll evenly a thicker coat which to tough if you're not paying attention to technique the whole time.

      Simply plan on two to begin with and realize there is no prize for cheepskates taking the easy way out.

       

  9. Area51 | Jul 08, 2006 06:49pm | #12

    I've completely switched from Benjamin Mooore to Sherwin-Williams for both interior and exterior painting.  Outside I use the A-100 oil primer and then Duration.  I would try the interior version of Duration and compatible S-W primer.  I'm not a painter, however I've restored a number of historic houses.  I really don't believe there is a "one-coat" paint.  Two coats always look better and are more durable.  I don't even find tinted primer plus one coat has a good look.  Maybe I'm too particular, but I don't want to do it again in a year or two because the prep, application or paint causes problems.

    I agree with the others who have posted saying there is no easy or cheap way out.  Cheap paint gives you inferior results.  Proper prep can't be avoided. Everything you do with regard to construction, including painting, takes time to do it the right way.   

     


    Edited 7/8/2006 12:00 pm ET by Area51



    Edited 7/8/2006 12:13 pm ET by Area51

  10. edward3 | Jul 08, 2006 09:20pm | #13

    Have to chime in here, Why bother with one coat. If it is new construction why spend all the money on the sheetrock. In fact, you can save a ton of money by framing 4' on center. Even more money if use newspaper for sheathing. Actually, do one coat of any type of paint. Hack workmanship keeps me employed, and eliminates competition by word of mouth. Sorry to be so caustic, but, there is no such thing as a "Proffesional" one-coat paint job.

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      Sphere | Jul 08, 2006 09:28pm | #14

      Your apology goes as far your tact. Did ya might consider the guy is a DIY?

      Hack workmanship keeps you employed? RIIIGGGHT

      And You call yourself a  "Proffesional"

      Go suck a lemon.

       

      Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

      There is no cure for stupid. R. White.

      1. paperhanger | Jul 09, 2006 12:46am | #15

        That is 100% correct. Go to A DIY website and let us alone! Enough of the BS already. This guy probably buys his paint at sears. Give me a break.

        1. sledgehammer | Jul 09, 2006 02:46am | #16

          Anyone that thinks they have a paint that'll cover in one coat, can't tell the difference between a good and bad paint job.

          1. DonCanDo | Jul 09, 2006 05:45am | #19

            OK, call me a hack painter if you must, but as a painter, I don't arbitrarily apply 2 coats.  I plan on it in case it's necessary and I can usually tell ahead of time, but there have been many jobs where 1 coat was indistinguishable from 2.

            A paint job should be as many coats as does the job properly. 1, 2 or 3 (the most I've done so far) or more.  It doesn't need to be 2 coats if it doesn't need to be 2 coats.

            Trim is a perfect example where I can usually use 1 coat.  Typically, there's little or no color change and it's already been painted with a gloss/semi-gloss paint so it isn't overly absorbent.

            Ceilings are yet another example where 1 coat is often sufficient since it's usually white on white.  It depends on lighting.  I try to be as critical as possible because the sun may come in at a different angle in a different season.  If there's any doubt in my mind, I'll use a 2nd coat, but that's not usually necessary.

            I'm already too rigid about too many things.  I don't need to add the number of coats of paint that define a good paint job to the things I obsess over.

            -Don

          2. mrfixitusa | Jul 09, 2006 03:24pm | #20

            A few months ago someone asked me to paint a ceiling in the living room of a nice home.This was not a trashed out flop house rental home which is where I have most of my experience which involves trying to paint over blood spatters, urine, vomit, etc.The ceiling of this nice home was off white and I went to sherwin williams and bought their best paint. The ceiling did not have cracks or repairs of any kind and it didn't need primer.I painted one coat and it just didn't cover. I let it dry and painted the second coat and wala it was finished.Back in the 1970's an old alcoholic I worked for taught me to paint.On a ceiling for example he taught me to paint one roller width from one end to the other. I would then wet the roller and paint one width from one end to the other and repeat all the way across the room. He would just roll one direction - one width all across the ceiling or wall.This is incorrect and it really helps paintto cover by using the X patterns or the W rolling pattern which is described on the paint can.Good luck!^^^^^^

             

            S N A F U (Situation Normal: All Fouled Up)

      2. edward3 | Jul 09, 2006 05:27am | #17

        Never said I was a "proffesional", in fact, I always tell folks " I don't know what I am doing ". My rant was uncalled for, and rude, but too many houses are being built out of "Shortcuts" and not out of " Materials ". 

        YES, 100% of my employment is "damage control, and remediation" in new construction and re-muddling.

        1. User avater
          Sphere | Jul 09, 2006 05:33am | #18

          My give a sh!t just broke.

          Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          There is no cure for stupid. R. White.

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