It started as a remodel. After pouring new foundations and building the floor system for the additions, we got the new drawings from the architect and EVERY single exterior opening changed and so did all the interior walls. So here is the house as it stands today:
The homeowners are currently living in this thing with no plumbing and a stepladder for the entrance.
Of course, since we are now building a new custom home, we better build a simple little garage first, right? Right.
From the new front door area, looking north:
Looking south, house behind to left:
Details: 8×8 fir beams. Full dimension 2X cedar rafter tails and fly rafters. Fir braces. All curved. Siding will be cedar shingles. 9′ walls everywhere, clad Sierra Pacific windows, 7’6″ doors all around. Geothermal heat pump. Sprayfoam poly insulation. Stamped concrete.
Timber/fly rafter/verge rafter detail over “storage area”
Garage porch.
For an idea of where this is. Here is a picture of me standing on the roof. Today, 8/19, snow is still lingering on Gash Point left center, and less visibly, on Ranger Peak up the canyon right center. St. Mary’s just out of view on the right.
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Jesse,
Very Nice! Cool brackets, tails, etc.
Brian
Wait till Splintergrooper sees this!
jesse,
Very nice work. Thanks for sharing.
Please post some pics of milling the tails and brackets.
Chuck S
Dam nice! View and work that is. Or should that be work and view?
In the first pic it looks like that shack is up on cribbing, like it was moved from somewhere. What's the story.
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Very nice project - wish it were mine!
BTW, what is the joinery here?
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My guess is a half lap (mine have Cuprinol slathered on them so you can see the joint):
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...where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe. They're so perky, I love that. <g>
Nicce garage
Too bad abou t hte house. Should have started that new so they'd bew able to live in the old while you do the work
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location is prime, landscaping is amazing..existing house is being moved to a cheaper lot, but for now sits on cribbing in the field. we framed half the exterior walls today on our brand new floor system (50/50 on old/new foundation). the cross/tie beam on that 8x8 connection is housed an inch onto the post. there are numerous large GRK washer head screws holding it together. i'll try and take pictures of my scribe rule cheating steps for pockets for the house porches. i'll post some more pictures soon. kudos to mike smith, stan, chuck and others who post extensive project reports. it takes a lot of time. too long to bother with capital letters.
Edited 8/20/2009 11:00 pm ET by jesse
nice thread.. lot's of good details on the garage... i'm a big fan of generous overhangs and that has them in spades
i'm slowed way down trying to figure how to do things on my Mac... the last bunch i posted them on my Mac and edited them on my PC
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Isn't it wild how everything is green when it should be burnt to a crisp now? Is Ernie Otoupalik moving the house?
Able moving and rigging did the move...and yeah, the august rain is crazy, and welcome.
A Abel Moving=Ernie. I guess he wanted to be first in the phone book under "movers and shakers".Those guys set my house down a quarter-inch off. I wrung my hands, so they picked it up again, and set it within a rat's whisker atop my foundation. I'm not sure they'd have down it as perfectly without the donuts, but that investment in sugar and fat was well worth it. Warning: they all disappear during the first couple weeks of hunting season; do not believe anything they tell you to the contrary! <g>
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I'm more on the ADD side of the meter, but i'm just lazy about shimming unless absolutely necessary. I was stitching the top of my basement to the house with plywood plates and wanted to be able to glue and nail it. And duct tape it.OK, maybe a little bit OCD...
Did you at least use the heavy duty duct tape? Or the cheap silver stuff from Walmart?"Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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I think it was the heavy duty duck tape...i had to use a razor bill to cut it.
"Warning: they all disappear during the first couple weeks of hunting season; do not believe anything they tell you to the contrary! <g>"LOL, we get that problem here, especially frustrating when you need to get a foundation in place before freeze-up and the excavation and concrete guys are all in camp up north!
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I know! I have to get one more pour out of my guys before they load up the horses and skedaddle to the hills. I'm teaching myself The Monopour: footings, retaining walls, and slab...all at once, so we can fit the concrete truck ruts and be done with it, and my guys can go murder Bambi.
AND IT'S ONLY THE END OF SUMMER!dID YOU GET THE COVER STRIPPED OFF THE SLAB AND WHACK A TEST HAMMER ON IT YET? sorry the caps - been working on notes on a plan with this keyboard
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Cover's off, looks fine. I don't know from "test hammer"...? I'm drilling holes for rebar this afternoon, and hoping the BOSCH hammerdrill doesn't go the way of me Bosch saw from my experiment cutting the control cracks with it.In a continuation of my using offbeat materials like dishwasher drainers for chairs, i'm trying hanging-ceiling T-bar to support the wall over the footing. I understand some folks use 18" stakes, but hell, i'd have to BUY them! <G>
A good hard cured bit of crete will pingggggg almost like steel on steel when you strike a hammer to it.Well, actually it is the hammer that does the pinging.
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wtf
Edited 9/6/2009 12:45 pm ET by jesse
Exterior walls are up and sheathed. Interior walls are framed. We poured two porch slabs on Friday. I am now trying to crank out roof parts because we need 100+ rafter tails, two timber porches (like the one on the covered part of the garage), multiple curved fly rafters, brackets, etc etc etc. I am not the contractor...I am just the dumb guy with timberframe shop experience so I am decent at producing lots of parts in a reasonable amount of time. I also rake concrete....
Porch forms with treated 2x4 embedded because the flared wall detail (that should be fun) comes down over the sides of the slabs.
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That's me in the back. Picture by one of the homeowners.
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Stampin.
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About half the rafter tails awaiting further planning for the seat cut. Full dimension rough sawn cedar 2x6. Kiln dried and then resawn. Really nice stuff.
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The pic with the embedded nailer ... are those screws in the backside of the 2x4 that will anchor the 2x4 into the concrete slab?"Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
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That is the idea. I had nothing to do with that decision, either. We'll probably throw a few bolts in later.
I would havwe used galvanized bolts countersunk into the 2x4, held tight with a nut on the back side. Extend about 3" into the slab and it would have been solid forever."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Hows the project going?
We got the roof on the garage.
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I made some more tails...
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To put on the house, where all exterior and interior walls are done, trusses are on, and wall sheathing is in place.
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And St. Mary's and Little St. Joe are on fire across the valley.
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Apparantly the architect just delivered measured drawings of all 16 compound curve fly rafters...because they are all different. So I guess I know what I am working on Monday.
nice wood
nice work
nice sceneryI can almost smell that cedar from here.
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Big week on the house roof. The architects sent some details over on the curved fly rafters. There are eight gables and only two of them are the same. The way the numbers were called out left a little to be desired....don't you think?
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Random spacing on his points between numbers...it got a little frustrating but a little rough guesswork landed me something more usable.
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I then plotted the points on the full dimension cedar 2x10, and ran a screw in just below the point.
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A little rebar bending and clampage (by the end I gave up on the clamps and just worked smaller sections along as I went.
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"Scored" it twice with a skillsaw at like 3/8 and 3/4 to make the jigsaw cut easier...
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Then some quality time with a a 3.5" planer, a belt sander, a router, an orbital sander, a framing square to lay out the seat cuts...well, you get it. I managed to make 4 each day (including stain). It took me all week and I still need to make all the parts for the monitor/cupola.
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The guys were about a day behind me. They'll hopefully have the roof done (except for the monitor) by Monday afternoon. Here is one of the double gables, master bedroom wing. I cut all the porch parts here, too. I think I've been in the garage shop for about 2 months with only a couple days with bags on to help set trusses and stand exterior walls...
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Oh yeah, and it snowed this week. St. Mary's:
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From the garage porch. Gash Point:
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And just down the road, the lingering Kootenai fire looks surreal underneath snow covered peaks.
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NICE!
always enjoy the work of a craftsman
progress continues...
flare detail on garage, there will be a similar detail on the house beneath the water table under the windows.
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Wow, that cupola is going to be spectacular. Nice work. Thanks for sharing it.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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According the the architect, that is actually a "monitor". I layed that thing out on the subfloor in full scale to get all my stud/cripple heights and built the walls individually on the ground and then flew it up there. I was pretty nervous but it all fit perfectly.
Edited 10/28/2009 10:27 pm ET by jesse
I like it. You're doing nice work.
-BK
can't wait to see more!
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Love it.
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I've been thinking stone? I love that place too, I want one but I aint goin to Montana.
I love Montana, I even had a job offer at Gibson Bozeman, but declined. The winters are hellish for a lightweight like me.
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Flare like on the garage (note swoop on bottom of door trim), then double coursed shingles (7" and 2.25" exposure). The porch columns get built out and then get the flare too, so there will be a bunch of pieces that are both inside and outside corners and only ~4" wide. That will be real special.
Edited 11/8/2009 11:50 am ET by jesse
Well Im not opposed to montana Im just poor. Id love to visit a place like that it looks beautiful. I'd also be curious to see if the winters are worse than Im used to.
The detail described sounds pretty nice, a little more unique than stone.
Well, I grew up in Minnesota and this part of Montana is positively tropical compared to the upper midwest.
Jesse,Great work and photos. Thanx for sharing.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
that is nice....
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Great picture, including the roof line and your shadow. Very cool.
How long into the summer does the back country skiing last out there? Does it ever end?
Many of the peaks ski very well into June. Some people find a way to make turns in July and August but it's not exactly good skiing.
That place looks great, I love the style. Are you going to have any more info on it?
I know that it takes forever posting pics, someone should figure out how to resize and copy and paste the pics easily, it would go so much faster and more would do it. What little I've done was fun but tedious.
I keep a lot of my pics in picasa and it resizes them for web use automatically, but you cant copy and paste from there. If you could it would be easy. Just thinking out loud, I would like to see more of that style of building. Good job
Work continues...very slowly. Many changes inside after rough ins were completed, unmade decisions...etc. Oh well. Looks like we have work until late spring at this rate.
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Very interesting thread. Thanks for taking the time to post.Ed
Check out the backcountry skiing around Cooke City,Mt sometime. Unreal. A good snow year will get us turns into July.
I hear ya. It just snowed 24 inches in town. 5 below today and snowin' and blowin'.
About 2" here in Ky this morning. 28 and snow gone now.
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Going on 10 months...the outside is about 99.5% done. Sheetrock is being hung right now.
That's pretty. You sure came a long way from the original structure!
How did you do the flares?... and what is the decking?
Yeah, I wondered about that too. Good thing it rarely snows in the Bitterroots--looks good but wouldn't work in Colorado--not long anyway. The cedar I have is mostly protected by the eves and I stained and sealed it. Worked over the cedar fence boards constantly but they were not structural. I don't even leave the structural portions of a deck unprotected. 30# felt works amazingly well. Tyr