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Blade for 12″ sliding miter saw

woodnoob | Posted in Tools for Home Building on July 26, 2006 01:31am

Hi.

I’ve got a 12″ Bosch slider.  I’m currently using a Freud Ultra fine cutoff blade, but it wobbles or deflects a little and produces a little unevenness in my miters. 

I’ve heard others have had a similar problem.  I’m tired of messing with it. 

What other blades would people recommend?

Thanks.

 

 

 

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  1. RW | Jul 26, 2006 01:38am | #1

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YBWB/qid=1153867004/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-5512295-3053516?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=hi&v=glance&n=228013

    The amazon people who wrote in gripe, but I think they're a minority. My absolute favorite, smoothest blades.

    "Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things, I am tempted to think -- there are no little things" - Bruce Barton

    1. unTreatedwood | Jul 26, 2006 07:59pm | #2

      it says it is not currently available."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program"  -Ronald Reagan 

      1. RW | Jul 26, 2006 11:47pm | #6

        maybe not from amazon but it is lots of other places . . ."Sometimes when I consider what tremendous consequences come from little things, I am tempted to think -- there are no little things" - Bruce Barton

        1. unTreatedwood | Jul 31, 2006 08:36pm | #20

          got it.  Just was responding to the link...that's all."The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a governmental program"  -Ronald Reagan 

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    Gene_Davis | Jul 26, 2006 09:23pm | #3

    Whatever you get, make sure the teeth have a negative hook angle.  Five degree is the most common.  For stability, you'll want a thicker sawblade than a thin-kerf.

    Amana, CMT, and Forrest are all good blades, with the Forrest the highest cost one.

  3. grandizer | Jul 26, 2006 10:52pm | #4

    The gold colored Rigid line is really nice. I've got the 10" on my CMS. They are made by freud and you can get them at HD.

  4. Piffin | Jul 26, 2006 11:30pm | #5

    Get a blade stabilizer or a thicker blade. I use Forrest Woodmaster series

     

     

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      dieselpig | Jul 27, 2006 03:42am | #7

      You find they're really worth the extra bucks, huh?  I've been looking at those blades for what seems like 5 years now but always talk myself out of it.View Image

      1. Jer | Jul 27, 2006 05:06am | #8

        " I've been looking at those blades for what seems like 5 years now but always talk myself out of it."

         

        Stop doing that.  You never get what you wanted....then what?  Regret? Your  dying breath is "Wish I had gotten the (fill in the blank).  Ahhh..."

        Forrest Chopmaster.  Just do it.

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          dieselpig | Jul 27, 2006 05:14am | #9

          lol... if my only regret in life is not buying a better saw blade then I guess I will have done pretty dang good.  Next time I need one, I'll do the deed and take yous up on it though.View Image

          1. woodnoob | Jul 27, 2006 06:06am | #10

            Well, I thought about the Forrest blades, but I'm in Western Canada and nobody stocks it locally.  I could've ordered one but wanted to buy local.

            I got the CMT Miter and Radial Arm Saw blade.  I hope it works better for me.

            Bye Bye Freud.

             

             

             

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            Dinosaur | Jul 28, 2006 03:12pm | #16

            I'm in Western Canada and nobody stocks it locally.

            Try Lee Valley. Canadian local, anyway.View Image

            Dinosaur

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      2. Piffin | Jul 28, 2006 01:47am | #11

        I look at it like this -
        I'd pay 85-90 at the local yards for a frued or simmilar which is not a bad blade, but for a bit over a hundred - I think - I get a blade that does the job better and lasts 20% longer...but now for you - what you use this for? Fascia.I usually put in a cheaper or older re-sharpened blade for framing anyway. 

         

        Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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          dieselpig | Jul 28, 2006 02:17am | #12

          No, we don't use the slider for framing unless there's a load of exterior trim... crown, dentil, koyne, etc.  Sometimes they let me work with the 'little wood' too.  :)View Image

    2. gordsco | Jul 28, 2006 03:04am | #13

      Doesn't the stabilizer affect the depth of cut?May neighbors respect You, and troubles neglect You.

      Gord

                              

       

       

      1. Abm | Jul 28, 2006 07:52am | #14

        I like the Diablo blades myself and use them for everything.. framing, trim, and whatever else needs to be cut. I have two or three of the Dewalt blades that are absolute crap.. can't even pawn them off to the help.. I got those with the saws new and didn't even bother putting them on... worst blade ever made in my opinion!

        1. gordsco | Jul 28, 2006 12:46pm | #15

          The blades that come with the DW saws are not very good, they are the bottom grade 20 series blades.

          On the other hand, DeWalt does make some excellent 60 series blades but they are special order where I'm from. The carbide in the 60 series blades is very hard, I know some hardwood guys who swear by them, but they don't come cheap. Probably a bit too pricey for framing, but if you are cutting hardwood all day, the 60 series are beautiful blades.May neighbors respect You, and troubles neglect You.

          Gord

                                  

           

           

      2. Piffin | Jul 29, 2006 01:18pm | #17

        don't know 

         

        Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

      3. wrudiger | Jul 29, 2006 09:38pm | #18

        "Doesn't the stabilizer affect the depth of cut?"

        Yes, definately does.  Around 2" IIRC.  I stopped using mine - I couldn't tell the difference with and without using a Forrest Chopmaster 12" - it's a pretty stiff blade.

  5. cynwyd | Jul 29, 2006 10:18pm | #19

    It seems that through the years whenever FHB or FWW compares saw blades Forrest is always at the top.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223VX/sr=1-31/qid=1154200474/ref=sr_1_31/103-9785193-5595812?ie=UTF8&s=hi

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      xxPaulCPxx | Aug 26, 2006 02:12am | #41

      BTW, http://www.forrestsawbladesonline.com/ seems to have REALLY good prices on the blades.

       

      Man, the longer I'm here... the more Kool Aid I swallow.

       

       

      Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA

      Also a CRX fanatic!

      Edited 8/25/2006 7:15 pm ET by xxPaulCPxx

  6. ubc | Aug 04, 2006 09:44pm | #21

    I only use Forrest blades. Do yourself a favor, spend the extra money and get the Forrest Chopmaster. I've had mine since 2002 and have yet to send it to be sharpened! Just keeping it clean does wonders.

    As for the thin-kerf blades: they're a waste of money. 1) the amount of material they save is moot and 2) the thinner blade results in more vibration which means poorer cuts.

    just my two cents... 

    UBC 

  7. Snort | Aug 05, 2006 01:18am | #22

    I've got to put in another vote for the gold ridgid blades. We run two 12" sliders almost every day.

    Cuts 5/4 x 8" hickry and maple at a 45° bevel with no burning...great price, and one's never more than 5 miles away<G>

    I need a dump truck, baby, to unload my head

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      basswood | Aug 05, 2006 02:09am | #23

      Most of those who are convinced that $140 Forrest blades are better than everything else, will be embarassed if they ever try a Ridgid. They cut as good or better for far less $.I'm with you on recommending Ridgid. I recently did a 4-layer built-up crown job with easily 50 miters...all joints fit perfectly the first time (except the returns that ran into out-of-plumb walls). No putty required at all--polished, perfect cuts.http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Titanium-Coated-Saw-Blades/index.htmhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Ridgid-12in-100T-Ultim-Polished-Finish-Saw-Blade-R12100_W0QQitemZ140012674781QQihZ004QQcategoryZ20797QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

      1. Snort | Aug 05, 2006 02:29am | #24

        I don't know if I ever thanked you for turning me on to them...so, thanks! I need a dump truck, baby, to unload my head

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          basswood | Aug 05, 2006 02:33am | #25

          I'm glad you like them...I couldn't be more impressed.So do you think the $40.00 100-tooth Ti blades on E-bay are hot?How can they do that?

          1. Snort | Aug 05, 2006 03:22am | #26

            So do you think the $40.00 100-tooth Ti blades on E-bay are hot?Wow, That price makes me hot...got a link? I need a dump truck, baby, to unload my head

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            basswood | Aug 05, 2006 03:34am | #27

            You missed it in my post above, here it is again...pay attention! ; > )http://cgi.ebay.com/Ridgid-12in-100T-Ultim-Polished-Finish-Saw-Blade-R12100_W0QQitemZ140012674781QQihZ004QQcategoryZ20797QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem$35.00 for the blade $13 or $14 for shipping

            Edited 8/4/2006 8:37 pm ET by basswood

          3. DonCanDo | Aug 05, 2006 03:49am | #28

            Thanks for the link (the first one since I was paying attention).  I just ordered one.

            -Don

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            basswood | Aug 05, 2006 03:53am | #29

            Let me know if you like it or if you think I'm full of it. I wish I were getting a commision 8 > {

          5. DonCanDo | Aug 23, 2006 04:50am | #39

            So I got that 12" 100-tooth Ridgid blade and I am certainly impressed.  Nice clean cuts with no noticeable blade deflection.  Of course, it does cut a little slower than the 44-tooth Freud Diablo that it replaced, but that's to be expected.  The Freud also made very clean cuts (if you made it a point to cut slowly) but it was prone to deflection.

            The Ridgid was about $44.00 with shipping.  Well worth it.  It doesn't seem to be available at that price anymore.

            -Don

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            basswood | Aug 23, 2006 05:18am | #40

            Glad you like it. I was telling someone about my "gold blade" at the job today. I have a 10" 50 tooth Ridgid ripping blade in my table saw too. Made some "flat crown" with it today.both pics are the same...dern double clickin'

          7. Snort | Aug 05, 2006 02:57pm | #31

            pay attention, yeah right...I need to be hit over the head before anything sinks in, ha, ha, ha...But I am going to get one of those blades, got a link? <G> I need a dump truck, baby, to unload my head

  8. Jer | Aug 05, 2006 04:14am | #30

    Go for a walk in the Forrest.  It's a religious experiment that works

  9. HandyWerks | Aug 05, 2006 05:05pm | #32

    I have a DeWalt 12" slider and use the Ridgid gold colored blade. 100 tooth. Works great for me in trin carpentry.

    Gary Lundgren
    General Contractor
    Minneapolis MN
    http://www.Handy-Werks.com
    Mbr: BBB

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      basswood | Aug 06, 2006 05:38am | #33

      Gary,Are you going to JLC live in your fine city next month?http://www.jlclive.com/JLCMW06/public/Content.aspx?ID=7051&Nav=1&left=1

      1. HandyWerks | Aug 06, 2006 06:17pm | #34

        Yes, I am.Gary LundgrenGeneral ContractorMinneapolis MNhttp://www.Handy-Werks.comMbr: BBB

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          basswood | Aug 06, 2006 06:28pm | #35

          I started a thread in the Fest Folder yesterday to see if we could get some BT folks together:77035.1

          1. HandyWerks | Aug 06, 2006 06:45pm | #36

            I'll have to look at it. What are BT folks?Gary LundgrenGeneral ContractorMinneapolis MNhttp://www.Handy-Werks.comMbr: BBB

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            basswood | Aug 06, 2006 06:47pm | #37

            BT folks=Breaktime people hear on this forum...you, me and all these other yahoos.

          3. HandyWerks | Aug 06, 2006 09:07pm | #38

            OK. I should have figured that one out.Gary LundgrenGeneral ContractorMinneapolis MNhttp://www.Handy-Werks.comMbr: BBB

  10. MikeCallahan | Aug 26, 2006 05:48am | #42

    I am kind of surprised that no one has yet to blame your saw. You should go over to the knots forum to get more opinions. I bought a saw once and out of the box no matter what blade we used and we had all the high end blades it still wobbled. We decided the wobble was in the arbor of the saw. We sent it back. I use the De Walt SCMS
    I am a Forrest Chopmaster man myself. I have felt the cuts of many many blades and the Forrest was by far the smoothest. Cut some hardwood with your blade and make a light pass on the end grain with your razor sharp block plane to open up the pores and look. The Forrest blades take the least amount of shaving to remove the tool marks in my experience.

    Mike Callahan, Lake Tahoe, Ca.

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