Bosch 4050 in line sabre saw? extinct?
Fonzie
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I had this thing for years, died today and I can’t find out what’s wrong with the thing. I think it was about 100$ but I can’t find it anywhere?
Anybody know what happened – or if there is an improved model?
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I had one of those once. Sold it to a friend who needed it more than I did. I'm pretty sure they stopped making them years ago. I don't think they were ever popular enough.
Bill
Have you taken it apart yet ?
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Yes I have taken it apart. It is built different than any other tool I have worked on. It is "modular" - one section plugs into the next like a fake Christmas Tree. There is a lot of opportunity for loose connection. Now I have a more developed question: My wife found exactly what I want in a search on the web. A Makita JR1000FTK I have the file as a PDF and it looks great, but I can't find where to buy the tool. Anybody know how to do this?
Looks like south Africa to me! Not sure of the working voltage.
I found it on Ebay IE (Ireland) but the supplier won't ship outside the UK or Ireland.I can't figure why Makita does this. You can find about any tool, but try to find a in line sabre saw.
I can get one for you but Its $400 plus shipping!! seems very high. Bosch should be able to rebuild it for you.
You mean the JR1000FTK is 400 plus shipping?
Its on the market in the UK for 199pounds which is about $400. I would have it shipped to my friend in the UK, then its the cost of shipping to the USA ($30-50). Power tools are very expensive in the UK. Its also 240volt, sometimes you can find a 110volt version intended for jobsite use but they are rare. Portercable had a sawzall with an adjustable head for tight spaces. Its bigger but would that work?
I had one of those Porter Cable saws and gave it away. Tiger Cub I think it was called - poor excuse. There is a 110 volt model listed on Ebay IE, and I have emailed the supplier (I can only find one supplier) - he has kindly told me they won't ship to the US and he is surprised this tool can't be bought in the US. 400 is pretty steep. It is listed for 89 L (is that 400?). I bet if I had a dozen of these to sell for 200 each I could get rid of them pretty quick. Anybody that has done this kind of work can see the value of this size and configuration of saw. I'm planning to email Makita. Thanks for the offer, but I'm convinced it can be bought for 200. Plus, I am encouraged we can get the Bosch going for a while longer. I'm not trying to make this out to be a big deal in the world picture, but it is so puzzling it is interesting. Is it because Makita can make more money with the cordless models? I have one of those double parked in the drawer. I get tired of changing batteries in it.
How bout a air drive? is that out of the question.
I saw some nifty air drive saws and they would be cat's pjs except you would have to get out the air. They probably would work good. Air tools are so friendly, but so are electrical outlets.
We got the frog hair soldered back on the field connector and it ROOAAAAAAAARED back to life, so I guess the crisis is over, but the mystery remains. I guess Makita doesn't consider us the chosen people. I guess I better keep it greased, etc.Thanks for the offer to have your friend ship it. Maybe by the time this old Bosch dies Makita will have enough of those to send us some.
Makita has a lot of tools not offered over here. I've flipped through the japanese makita catalog before- there's an amazing amount of timber framing tools, and circular saws of every shape and size, and so on. All pricy stuff, but high quality. Hitachi has similar stuff over there.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Zak
Do you understand why they do that?Don
Not a clue. There used to be a couple places here in Berkeley that imported japanese spec tools, but Makita and others have cracked down on that- I don't understand why.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
Can you say "Verdict for the Plaintiff"?
My guess is that the tools built for non-US markets don't meet some obscure US reg or other, so they are afraid of liability -- a bigger problem here in the "Sue" S. of A.
Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA
I bet the sue answer nails it. The abusers mess it up for everybody. However we're like ants I think - we just bump and go around. Unusable guards come of...cough.
Could be, I don't know. I've used a couple of those japanese only tools- some ~ 6-1/2" circular saws, and a big hollow chisel mortiser. They certainly seemed as safe as my normal tools, but they seemed a bit more solid, quieter, better quality.zak
"When we build, let us think that we build forever. Let it not be for present delight nor for present use alone." --John Ruskin
"so it goes"
By the way, the guy I work with found the problem with the Bosch 4050 - a frog hair wire where the field hooks on the connector/module. I expect we will have it going again tomorrow, but I'd rather have a Makita. I'm sure the demand is there for a quality tool of this size. What's the problem with supply and demand on this? The Bosch 4050 has been a handy tool - I have just had to rework it several times.
Was wondering if they still make them too. I have one that's still going strong that I use for coping trim. I refer it as a jigsaw on a stick. maybe that was Bosch's slogan for it?
I agree a great saw and one I use alot. I had mine in for service a few years back and found out they were discontinued so I bought another one (reconditioned) right there at the service center. I'll be at the jlc live trade show today and I'll bust Bosch's chops again about discontinuing a great tool.
wookie
Yeah, I reached for mine today. Did you notice it's made in Switzerland? This time when I had it apart I used Mystic spray grease - easy to get into the tight places.
Well my first stop at the JLC live was the Bosch booth. I inquired of Robin who I was told was the top man at the booth how about it are they bringing back the inline sabre saw? He INFORMED me that the saw was discontinued 4-5 years ago. I thanked him and INFORMED him that yes I aware of that fact just curious if maybe it would be made available again. NO was the short answer. I tried engaging in tool talk and was just blown off. I told him of this thread and forum, he never heard of it! Kind of strange for someone in the tool trade not to be aware of this forum IMHO. This occurred at the beginning of the show, maybe at the end of the day he might have a attitude. I don't know it just PO's me to get blown off like that and no I'm not overly sensitive. I wanted to pickup that new 10.8 lith right angle drill just to po'd. I'll chillout and order it online.
I can't remember who bought Bosch, but I remember at the time wondering if they will do for them what they did for themselves - was it Skill? Blown off at the tool show - the guy that listens might have learned something there from you. Anyway, it's strange to see such a vacuum in the tool world. It seems like there would be about a dozen choices for FHB to test and give us the scoop on. Strange. I've started calling my 4050 the "Dodo".
Maybe you ought to fire this guy he talked to?
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need right angle for tight spots, been working great.
wookie
I received the JR1000FTK Makita inline sabre saw from the UK (EBAY UK)last Friday. The saw had to be picked up and sent by a UK local (contact). It cost about 27 pounds to send (out of the case) and 80 pounds to buy, so a little over 200$.
The male plug was great quality but like nothing I have seen. It was easily removed/replaced.
The saw runs great and has great features - far above the Boshe 4050.
The auto chuck works with a quick turn and presto. It comes with several neat looking blade accessories - hook and loop sander-blade, file, knife.
There is a recessed light shining on the cut.
The saw screams quality and compactness. It makes me wonder if Makita sells the dregs to US (ha).
The bottom line is this: I think most of you guys would want one of these if you had it in your hand. The joke will probably be on me (with it coming out for 100 next month on Amazon), but I think it's odd, and I think if it is a liability thing it really stinks that we have been brutalized by lawyers such that we can't enjoy such a tool. That's assuming that perspective.
If it's that Makita doesn't think it can make money selling this here I think they have missed it.
Fz
JR1000FTK Makita inline saber saw
This Makita (JR1000FTK) that I had to import from UK Ebay (just over 200$ and a contact had to pick it up and ship it - the Ebay store wouldn't) has turned out to be the handiest tool - indescribable. When it came I had to change the plug.
It is offered in 220 vt and 110 vt. Watch out for that if you get a chance to get one.
I can't imagine any reason this isn't available other than a possible lawsuit from idiot use. There is only one small problem with the saw (easily solved with a small rare-earth magnet). When a blade breaks often the "T" portion of the blade is still down in the holder. The magnet easily lifts it out. The chuck is a quick - hold, a quarter turn and the blade is securely held instantly and can be put in either way. The speed is variable, the tool runs so fast (if desired) and so smooth that it's amazing how cuts can be made full depth and in hard to reach places.
The last time I checked you couldn't even get it in the UK. All the leads I checked ended with "discontinued". If I'm right about the chance of getting sued this is another example of how these frivolous lawsuits affect us all.
( here's another link to a parts blow-up: )
http://www.ereplacementparts.com/makita-jr1000ftk-reciprocating-saw-parts-c-97_98_158_16105.html
Interesting. The Makita JR1000FTK is marketed here in Japan as a "mini-reciprocating saw" rather than as a jigsaw/sabre saw. Price is around 30,000 yen, or USD $240 at current exchange rates.
http://item.shopping.c.yimg.jp/i/l/oktools_dk-0119