Braced wall panel fasteners I used 6d ring shanked
Nailing off my 7/16 zip system Continuous structural wall panels with 2 inch ring shank (6d) Nails. Looking at IRC 2018 602.3(3) it calls for 8d nails, 2 1/2 x .131.
My problem is, I cannot find these nails, All that the stores and lumberyards have is 2 3/8”
Having trouble even finding them online at all. Anyone else have this issue? seems really ridiculous that code Required collated nails are basically nonexistent.
I also saw the same chart in the IBC that has another row for 6d nails in 7/16 inch thick sheathing. in the wind load column, It shows nominal wind speed which if I look at the conversion chart I’m basically compliant with the speed that’s on the row for a 6d nail so now I’m just really confused.
my ultimate wind speed zone is 115 mph so it’s not really that bad in exposure B And my inspector doesn’t even know what I’m talking about. I know that sounds strange, but this is my house and I want to build it right any advice?
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Looking at your picture by your name, I thought I would mention the first thing taught to me on a framing job:
“Never back up”
Yeah, I hear you. Also have a huge death hole in the middle where the stair shaft is.
Also that wall in the pic with the jacks on it was 40 ft long... sketch... I used 4 jacks to lift that wall by myself, and it was 2x6 fully sheathed.
Well here’s my story with vivid illumination.
I was taught never back up and have succeeded in remembering.
The young helper on a later job evidently didn’t hear it. He backed up in your stairwell with no rails. Luckily we had the stringers and temp steps in there. We took him to emergency and instead of waiting around, we went and had lunch. Luckily again, he ended up just bruised, both his ego (good) and other areas.
Also was taught that b/4 we go home, we sweep up and scrap out the deck. DO NOT SWEEP OFF THE DECK AND INTO THE HOLE, Like an “eat at joes” for termites.
We left those frames done right and clean.
There was usually only 3 of us framing. We’d sheet, install the windows and hang the framed overhang. It (overhang) would be held right by tacking it back to the top plate with lumber banding. Lift it up, brace it . Looked like a Hollywood western stage set. Set the rafters, nailed them off, sheeted and collected the loot.
A Senco salesman showed up one day and offered us the use of a gun if we bought nails……heck yeah! He didn’t come back at least soon enough to see if we wanted to buy it. We were done and gone. Bought plenty more nails, but not in his area. Pity he didn’t rep for a wall jack company.
Same house when we went to collect the final draw story is even better.
You need the longer nails if the siding is thicker.
If you want to do it better, put a few extra nails in, or round down the spacing.
You do not want to go too crazy, because you need undisturbed sheathing to carry loads from adjacent fasteners.
I think I was looking at the code wrong. Column says min panel thickness for 6d nail is 3/8" Doesn't say I max panel size. The requirement of 8d nails for 7/16" thick panels is only applicable to exposure D with may higher wind speeds than mine (B) So the 6d rings shanks should be perfectly fine.
You are not alone is being confused by this. I have also wondered how people are meeting the code for things that call for 12D nails for example that are a larger size than fit in a nail gun. Obviously you can pound nails by hand, but I think most people out there are just shooting the right length but skimping on diameter and it's getting overlooked. I'd be interested to hear what other people say about this.