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Brick band needs flashing??

MtnBoy | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 24, 2007 03:57am

Excuse my ignorance, but when you run brick coursework in a band around a house, do you put flashing above that top edge? Would you do the same if you used cast stone instead of brick for the band?

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  1. seeyou | May 24, 2007 04:13pm | #1

    >>>>>>>>>but when you run brick coursework in a band around a house, do you put flashing above that top edge?

    I'm assuming that you're switching to some other type of siding. My answer is yes - either metal or peal & stick.

    http://grantlogan.net/

  2. Brickie | May 24, 2007 05:51pm | #2

    Yes, you flash at every material transition, generally.  You're talking about a wainscot height brick wall with a rowlock sill at top?  The metal flashing starts on top of this course, running behind the siding above.

    1. MtnBoy | May 24, 2007 07:18pm | #4

      I'm looking at a couple of different possibilities and want to be prepared for either one. One is all brick siding with a rowlock course as a band around the house, just switching to a different color brick below the band. It just seemed to me like there's a lot of joints in a rowcourse, so I'm thinking about water.

      The other possibility is all brick siding but doing that wainscot level band out of cast stone instead of brick. BIA recommends flashing above the cast stone in that application, but not below it.BTW, all windows will get the same treatment--either brick trim all around or the cast stone.Cast stone looks good, but I think: why mess up good old durable brick with something that hasn't been around all that long.

      1. Brickie | May 24, 2007 09:17pm | #5

        If you're talking about a "manufactured stone" like Cultured Stone, it is a lightweight concrete and surface colored product.  I wouldn't use it for any projecting element exposed to weather, but I might be playing it too safe.  You can get a brick in a shape that would be good for the effect you're going for at this location.  (look for the shapes called squints and pool coping)

  3. BUIC | May 24, 2007 06:11pm | #3

      Since you've already gotten good answers let me add this.

      Anytime you can direct water to go in a safe direction, it's a good thing.

      Any question that has a point is good too.  Keep using your common sense and asking questions...buic

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    popawheelie | May 24, 2007 10:47pm | #6

    If you are thinking that a cultured/manufactured stone product doesn't look as good as the real thing then you are right.

    Traditional materials will always stand the test of time better.

    I know of one guy who was thinking about this. He needed brick for a patio that weren't as thick as a brick. He looked at manufactured brick and decide to have his laborer slice all the brick in half for the project. It took time but the brick looks right.

    Besides, his brick went twice as far ;^)

    1. MtnBoy | May 24, 2007 11:41pm | #7

      I'll second that. I'm thinking more about the durability aspect of cast stone. It just hasn't been around that long. Only problem with real stone is costs more.

      1. seeyou | May 25, 2007 12:37am | #8

        >>>>>>>>>I'm thinking more about the durability aspect of cast stone. It just hasn't been around that long.It's been around pretty long. I used it the first time sometime before I got married the first time. My son from that marriage will soon be 25, so it had to be almost 30 years ago and it wasn't a new product then. I stopped and looked at that job (a woodstove chimney chase) a couple of weeks ago. Looks as good as it did when I first installed it.http://grantlogan.net/edited for spelling.

        Edited 5/24/2007 5:37 pm ET by seeyou

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        popawheelie | May 25, 2007 03:43am | #9

        The thing is that old (real) brick or anything traditional keeps it's value. It looks like old brick.

        If you buy real brick it goes up in price the older it is.

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