I had a problem on a siding job. The owner of my company wanted me to sub it out. I removed the existing 1’x2′ concrete fiber siding to expose existing wood siding. This is a historic housing area called German Village. Existing wood siding was ok shape but, not good enough to restore. Ordered new siding, 1×6 t&g. Painters primed and back primed. Siding contractor installed with 21/2″ siding nails. A few week later the siding buckled in 1 area, 2 boards. Siders came back and replaced bad area. Now it has buckled in 7 – 10 other areas. Insulation was blown in prior to new siding. I checked with the architect, his first thought was it was installed too tight at the t&g. Upon thorough inspection I noticed that is was not nail into the studs, they used the old siding as a nailer hitting studs by luck. Needless to say homeowner is upset. Other siding crews are afraid to touch it for fear of same thing. All siding and trim will be removed and replaced. Any thoughts why this happened?
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T&G siding? If run horizontal I'm assuming, which way does the T go?
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
They nailed the new siding on top of the old siding?
What was the old siding flat?
I've never seen cedar sidng put on top of existing siding before.
Well here's the link for proper installtion of T&G Siding but this is on top of the sheathing.
When your nailing the siding verticaly you don't hit the studs but horizontally there's no raeson why you can't hit the studs but your saying that they nailed over the existiing siding and used that for the nailer.
http://www.cedar-siding.org/installing_siding/tongue-groove.htm
Did the installers nail thru two pieces of siding with one nail? The nail should be toenailed thru the tongue into studs or sheathing. They may have nailed thru both pieces which prevents expansion and contraction. If the original siding was tight to the studs, I see no problem nailing into the old siding. Is there 30lb felt under the siding? Should be, even if there was felt under the original siding. Each piece must be nailed separately.
The siding may have to come off and reinstalled if these steps were not taken.
mike
Any chance we have a misunderstanding of terminology here?
By buckled, do you mean as in.......siding expanded, had no where to go and so heaved up off the surface...
or do you mean several individual boards in a given area that are cupping badly?
No profile info on you to be had. Whereabouts are you and perchance did this siding receive substantial rainfall with only primer on the exposed side?
Was the wood at an appropriate moisture content when it was installed or was it maybe at a substantially lower MC than if it had first been acclimated?
Maybe it was acclimated prior to mounting. ???
Primer was oil or water based?
Was the wood acclimated prior to priming?
Any relationship between the buckled areas and the activities going on in the room on the other side of that wall? (moisture generation)
Knowledge is power, but only if applied in a timely fashion.
Edited 1/23/2005 11:11 am ET by GOLDHILLER
Edited 1/23/2005 11:13 am ET by GOLDHILLER