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Kevin_D | Posted in Construction Techniques on January 14, 2013 01:00am

Hi All,

Has anyone ever been called out for using “Faux Vents?”

 

I tried looking up any applicable code in the IRC, but none seemed to apply. R806 is the roof ventilation section, but really doesn’t have anything applicable. 

 

That made me wonder if they’re considered “siding,” since they aren’t functional.

If they’re siding then it seems that none of the manufacturers follow code, is that correct? I say this because siding (R703) requires things like “Wind resistance” 703.1.2 which none of the vent manufactures test for that I could find. 

It kinda seems like inspectors just ignore this though.

 

Any feedback?

I appreciate your responses. 

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  1. calvin | Jan 14, 2013 01:36pm | #1

    feedback?

    I'm having a hard time understanding the question.

    What are faux vents?

    And what are the inspectors ignoring?

    thanks.

  2. calvin | Jan 14, 2013 02:19pm | #2

    Is there any testing data...........

    for aluminum or vinyl soffit?    or vinyl / alum. siding for that matter?

    I don't live in a coastal zone or Fla so have never seen any inspector inspect siding or trims install.  Their final isn't much but the step ratio, railings, lights and plumbing and the good ones-water management.

    Believe me, until the majority of jurisdictions start using the IRC as their bible, not much will change here in my corner of Ohio.  Of course, I'm just a remodeler who's last addition was 3 yrs ago.

    and thanks for fleshing out your question-I was lost.

    1. Kevin_D | Jan 14, 2013 02:45pm | #3

      Well the specific install is fiber cement siding, but the question is just kind of general. 

      The 2 of 3 local inspectors are really nice, but 1 like to nitpick random stuff like this. It was suggested that it may need to have a professional engineer's stamp. 

      I think I'm going to call the Tapco group. I also used their Sturdimount blocks (http://www.sturdibuild.com/) for the lights and hose bibs. If anyone had an engineer check their stuff, it's them. I'll ask them if they had an engineer do load tests and if it's required. 

      Either that or have the inspector come back out, 66% chance of getting the nice one isn't too bad. 

      1. calvin | Jan 14, 2013 04:58pm | #5

        Thanks Kevin.

        No joke, where are you located that there'd be a call for a stamp on a stink'n vent?  What about the mailbox?

        Mama mia, I'm glad to be here in the NW corner of the fine state of Ohio, where we relish in an opportunity to keep the Michigan bb team from walking over us to a #1 ranking.

  3. rdesigns | Jan 14, 2013 03:35pm | #4

    IRC section 703.1.2 refers you back to section 301.2, table 2, and that table considers wall areas in a range that statrts at 10 sq. ft.

    The faux vents would all be considerably less than that. It may be the vents are considered to be decorative items that are replacable as an individual unit, thus not being in the same category as siding since replacement cost would be minor.

    I'm basing this on the fact that the table lists both positive and negative pressures on siding, which, to me, means that the underlying concern is to prevent large sections of siding from being either sucked or blown off the frame.

  4. Kevin_D | Jan 15, 2013 12:13pm | #6

    I got the following response from Tapco: 

    "Good Morning,

    Unfortunately,  there are no code requirements for this product, so we do not have this type of documentation.  Would you like the spec sheets or installation guide for these products?   Let me know.

    Thanks!"

    So I guess it's just not covered by building code. Weird, but cool I guess? 

    Edit: To be clear this is in response to the Sturdimounts only. The receptacle, light and hose bib ones were the ones I mentioned (since I actually DID use those : D)

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