can someone point me to something that shows me a picture of this drywall bead’s description?
johncanuck
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In a very old forum post (from 2002) that talks about a solution to the same problem / question I have, the responder described a type of drywall bead that I want to locate and use. (See the post below).
I haven’t spotted anything that looks like what’s described in any of my local big box stores.
Could someone point me to a manufacturer or exact “product name” so I can track this down.
Thanks very much
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by r_ignacki_ in reply to Anonymous [original] on Sat, 03/09/2002 – 15:16
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There’s a plastic edge bead we use for this, it get’s stuck on after the rock is hung. It has a 1/4″ or
so flange that you tear off after the rock gets finished, and leaves a crevice that you caulk.
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Trim-Tex probably has what ever you need.
Trim-Tex is one of the larger suppliers of plastic and vinyl drywall components, and associated tools. They probably have what you need. I'm guessing one of their tare-away beads is what you want.
Take a look at their online catalog. http://www.trim-tex.com/product_catalog.php
Zip-bead is what you want.
John
Zip-bead in Florida-
Tearaway L-bead here in Ohio.
There's L-bead and tearaway L-the tearaway gives a 1/4" plastic up above the trowel line-you mud it up, peal it away when done, caulk small bead and paint.
Look to online catalogue for TrimTex.
Thanks to all for the link to Trim-Tex. I can see that it's a speciality item that wouldn't be stocked in the big box stores, but I also see that they have a distributor that's relatively close to me in the Toronto, Ontario area.
This is a link to all their "Tear Away" beads http://www.trim-tex.com/product_catalog.php?cat_display=viewcategory&catid=28 It It looks like the one I'm looking for is their "Caulk Channel Tear Away Bead"
My next challenge is to visualize how to install it for my situation. From the picture of the bead itself I can't tell yet, but I'll figure that out now that I know what it looks like and where I should be able to get it.
Thanks again.
Have you looked in the big boxes yet? All of ours carry it. It's a very common bead.
John
You've enlightened me in the expanded offers for L bead. Thanks.
If you have the application, then the caulk channel might be the one. Otherwise, the original L will certainly fill the bill-
it'll give you the straight taping edge and still provide a small caulk area once you remove the tear away strip. (you'll have an eighth inch "gap" between finish and what you're up against.
I thought for sure that after I saw all the TrimTex tear away type beads I'd be able to see one that I could use to do what I want, but I've drawn a blank. I'd appreciate it if someone could look at the simple sketch I've attached of what I want to do and suggest which of the TrimTex style beads I'd use (I'm assuming it would be one of their Tear Away styles but for the life of me I can't see which one).. Thanks.
calvin wrote:
If you have
calvin wrote:
If you have the application, then the caulk channel might be the one. Otherwise, the original L will certainly fill the bill-
it'll give you the straight taping edge and still provide a small caulk area once you remove the tear away strip. (you'll have an eighth inch "gap" between finish and what you're up against.
Thanks Calvin. Can you give me the actual TrimTex tear away style "name" from their catalog, for what you refer to as the "original L". It sounds like it will work for the edge I want to finish, but I still can't picture how I'd use one of these tear away beads.
The edge I'm trying to finish is at the top of a plastic tub surround wall panel. It looks something like the sketch below.(I couldn't find a fixed pitch font to "sketch" this but I hope you can see what I'm trying to show. I tried to attach a file to a post on the weekend, but it seems to have been queued/eaten by spam filters/moderators, so this my next best option).
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| | | drywall (firred out to match width of nailing flange)
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| +--+ top edge of nailing flange of the main body of the wall panel
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caulk --> | |
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| | plastic surround wall panel
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I'm looking for a clean straight finished edge between the drywall edge and the top of the wall panel that I'm going to caulk. Would the tear away bead be installed under the drywall first ... or on top of the drywall after?
John
I see the freaking filterer has posted your picture.
I'll look at the catalogue and post a number here as an edit.
EDIT:
Well, I saw no product numbers but here's my list using the catalogue names.
I'd use what I'm used to and have in the shop and can get across the river a couple miles from here- Tearaway L Bead.
It can be held up if that's what you want or laid right down on the shower surround ledge. You'd get about a nice 1/8" caulk line if that's enough for you. You of course could hold it up a bit, so your caulk gets in under it.
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Shower bead-now that looks interesting-but would be special order I think and for a couple pcs----------------not likely-they'd have to buy a box.
or Tearaway XT (xtra tall) L- Most of the tearaway I use goes vertical or above my head-so gravity when taping doesn't conflict too much with the application. However, the bigger (tearaway) "ledge" would hold the mud that is for sure going to want to fall over the regular "sheild or ledge of the tear away strip.
There was also a masking type tearaway (might have been called Pullaway Bead-that has what appears to be a pull out type of "backer" to mask the mud from getting in contact with what it shouldn't.
That one if I could find it-I'd use it.
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I'd just go out to the shop, toss a coupld 10ft tearaway L's in the van and go do the job.
Hope this helps somewhat.....................................................
Thanks! Calvin. I really appreciate you taking the time on this.
On Monday I called the Canadian distributor and got the names of a couple of smaller building supply companies in my area that the distributor deals with. (The suppliers I got weren't any of the "big box" / consumer retail stores where I had been looking ie. these places were more specialized places that normally deal with the "trades" not "diy'ers / consumers" like me.
Yesterday I picked up 2 pieces of the "Tear Away L Bead" from one of them. (As an aside, when I bought them, the guy that I gave my slip to in the yard, brought them back to me on his tow motor and as he gave them to me, chuckled they were heavy).
The one I think would be the "best" for me (and that I was originally trying to track down), would probably be the "Caulk Channel Tear Away Bead" and I still may try to get it. The guy I bought the stuff from yesterday, gave me the name of yet another company, that only deals with companies and said that if they could give it to me (even in piece quantities) ... then I could buy it from his company and go pick it up from the other company using a Purchase Order.
The extra details about the different ways you might use these various "Tear Away" beads in my situation was very informative as well. I can see that there's no "right way" to use these things. You can obviously use them however you want, if it does what you want.
Thanks again.
John
John
There's two ways I install the bead-
Both, after the board is hung and enough space has been left for the leg that caps the edge of the board.
Staple-there's a million holes and I can hit them or not-stapled to the drywall-no need for anything more than a 5/16" staple.
or
my preferred way-spray adhesive and yes-trim tex brand.
There's not much movement with the spray but you fit it, spray it and the wall surface and put it home.
off to chase the elusive little white ball.......................
Hope you had a good round the other day. I tracked down the "Caulk Channel Tear Away" bead at the TrimTex distributor location that fortunately for me, is not to far away. I had been planning to buy some (because it's name "Caulk Channel" suggested it was what I wanted) but when I actually saw the bead profile in my hand I decided it wouldn't really do work as well as I thought it might.
In the end I've decided to use the "Tear Away L Bead" that you had suggested originally, and I did buy a can of the TrimTex spray adhesive as well.
So now that I finally know how I'm going to approach finishing the nailing flange of the tub/shower surround area and have the material, I can get on with putting up the final pieces of drywall in the bathroom ... then taping, mudding, sanding, painting ... oh joy. Chasing the elusive little white ball sounds like a much better option.
Thanks for all the tips..
John
Hey John
You'll like the bead, you'd have loved the round.
Once I got my pregame warmups done by the 4th hole, it was indeed a nice round.
Remember to use that built up area right at the tearaway as your "screed" when you run your knife. Keep it clean and pristeen through your successive coats.
You might find that just bending your "tearaway" strip back and forth isn't quite enough-you might try just scoring it with a sharp blade in a utility knife. Bend a couple times and pull it off, one end to the other.
Come back and report how a tearaway novice found it's use.
And from us all here, you are welcome-if we helped, all the better!
Well, I installed the bead today and and it's looking good so far. I still have to mud it, but that part looks straight forward now. I understand your point about keeping the critical mudding edge (that's protected by the tear away strip) clean. When I dropped some mud onto it while I was doing the corner joint at the ceiling, I cleaned it up as soon as I could because I now appreciate the purpose and value of this edge.
The Trim Tex spray adhesive is pretty wild stuff, but it obviously gets the job done in terms of quickly holding the bead onto the edges that I want to "cap" and then caulk. I didn't need to use any staples.
The instructions say to use the "Trim Tex" cleaner (which I didn't think to get), but fortunately I found that varsol worked fine for getting it off my fingers and parts if the bead where I didn't want it. I also made a point of masking the entire tub and wall surround surfaces before I started and I'm thankful I did. I wanted it masked mainly to keep mud and paint off it, but obviously it also keept the spray off too.
John
you did good .
I use Durabond 90 to do the first coat. It doesn't sand very easy at all, but I like it's hardness.
You could do it with all purpose.
Lightly scrape the bed and resultant "hitchhikers" with a 6 inch knife, before the second and final coats
Keep an eye on the plastic bead, it's your guideline.
Here's a tip if you didn't by the debonder when you go get the quickdry "superglue" for small trim parts............(if you do)
Buy a can of PAM. Keep it in the truck.
It worked to debond 6' of in/out cabinet trim I had preassembled............................
to my finger.
After seeing all the TrimTex tear away style beads I thought I'd be able to find the one that I could use for what I'm trying to do but I' drawing a blank. I'm sure there must be one that will work, but I just can't see it.
I've attached a sketch of the drywall finish I'd like to achieve. Could someone suggest which style would work the best and how it would be attached (i.e. before (/underneath) the drywall or after (/ontop) of the drywall). Thanks.