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   Scott | May 23, 2011 02:30pm | #1

   Sounds like a combination of factors. Are you sure you don't want to get a machine involved? They're worth every penny IMO.

   Besides, if it gets much worse, you might need to excavate the perimeter to get at the drain tile.

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   DanH | May 23, 2011 08:13pm | #2

   Move in more dirt to build up the soil so it slopes away from the house.  You can use a wheelbarrow if you want.

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   xxPaulCPxx | May 24, 2011 02:30pm | #3

   What about a French Drain?

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   DanH | May 24, 2011 09:46pm | #5

   What about a French Drain?

   To where?

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   xxPaulCPxx | May 25, 2011 04:41pm | #11

   Well, it wouldn't be to the OBVIOUS place, which is downslope daylight... nooooooo...

   My thought is he pipes a french drain into his house, up to his toilet.  Then he can just flush the stormwater away!

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   sungod | May 24, 2011 07:01pm | #4

   Keeping water out of basement.

   Buy some 4 mil plastic.  Did out the dirt to slope away from house, install plastic and put back the mountain of dirt you dug out.

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   dt20204 | May 24, 2011 10:04pm | #6

   Sounds like you have a combination of issues.  Your roof is funneling lots of water toward that inside corner.  An inch of rain over ~500sq foot roof area is around 300 gallons of water.  Gutters would certainly help.  There are several methods to hang a gutter, one of which is with a "roof hanger".  The hanger attached to the sheathing under the shingles and then the gutter hanges from it.  Several styles are available, my favorite is the hidden style with rod and nut for pitch adjustment like the one in the photo.

   
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   DanH | May 24, 2011 10:08pm | #7

   Another option is to build a "gutter" in the dripline:  Excavate an 8-12" deep trench, line with heavy plastic, insert drain tile, then cover with decorative rock.

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   Scott | May 25, 2011 12:24am | #8

   >>>Another option is to build

   >>>Another option is to build a "gutter" in the dripline:  Excavate an 8-12" deep trench, line with heavy plastic, insert drain tile, then cover with decorative rock.

   That sounds like an excellent idea; sort of a nouveau French drain. It could even be done sans machinery if one were willing to do a bit of shovel work.

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   DanMorrison | May 25, 2011 06:02am | #9

   Three articles that may help

   Mike Maines wrote an article about ground gutters here: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/design-matters/ground-gutter

   Eric Nelson wrote about curtain drains here: https://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/articles/keep-basement-dry-with-a-curtain-drain.aspx

   and Green Building Advisor has an encyclopedia entry on stormwater management here: http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/green-basics/stormwater-management

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   xxPaulCPxx | May 25, 2011 04:04pm | #10

   To where?

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   DanH | May 25, 2011 09:55pm | #12

   Well, obviously any sort of tile drain has to drain somewhere, ideally downhill to daylight or to a storm sewer, but sometimes one must use a sump pump of some sort.  (I'm wary when people say "French drain" because to some people than means a dry well, which would be a really dumb idea in the OP's circumstances.)  It's better, of course, to have a conventional roof edge gutter of some sort, since that has the advantage of height -- except in the most extreme circumstances you can arrange to drain the water away by gravity (if you don't object to, eg, drain pipes angling across the yard suspended 6 feet above ground level).

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   xxPaulCPxx | May 26, 2011 02:55pm | #13

   (if you don't object to, eg, drain pipes angling across the yard suspended 6 feet above ground level).

   Sounds like a great place to build a working scale model of a roman aqueduct!