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1. 
   DanH | Jan 02, 2019 08:37am | #1

   Good luck!

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   mgmahan | Jan 02, 2019 10:06am | #2

   Build your own.

   It looks pretty easy to build.

   Mike

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   mgmahan | Jan 04, 2019 01:31pm | #14

   All you need is

   A piece of round bar

   The ability to thread it on each end

   Some flat bar and a drill 

   Some nuts and bolts.

   A spring.

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   calvin | Jan 02, 2019 11:57am | #3

   Check this out

   and ask them if it comes close to your needs or if they can recommend something for your big as'd carriage door.

   https://www.qualifiedhardware.com/brands/rixson/10-series.htm?vfsku=108&vfsku=108&gpla=pla&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI99-07MXP3wIVwrXACh3vKg3DEAQYBiABEgKTjPD_BwE

   or maybe these folks for a tip

   https://www.realcarriagedoors.com/?matchtype=p&network=g&device=t&adposition=1o1&keyword=carriage%20doors&campaign=650179847&adgroup=31587734766&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI99-07MXP3wIVwrXACh3vKg3DEAMYASAAEgL9MPD_BwE

   or a pair of big slide rods commonly seen on fences to hold the gate open.  A bit more cumbersome as it’s not automatic.

   or start searching commercial hardware supply houses.

   .

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   DanH | Jan 02, 2019 03:45pm | #4

   I suspect that the spring is a critical part of the design.  Just think about the force that occurs when the wind catches the door as you open it.

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   mgmahan | Jan 02, 2019 08:05pm | #5

   when the door is closed....

   that sucker sticks out into the room!!!

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   SoftballJunky | Jan 03, 2019 08:54pm | #6

   sticking out

   the stop rotates to be parallel to the door

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   DanH | Jan 03, 2019 10:29pm | #8

   Yeah, when the door is closed the rod will be parallel to the door.

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   mgmahan | Jan 04, 2019 01:29pm | #13

   Sorry

   I took the pivot distance on the jamb and the door to be equal. If they aren't I'm wrong.

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   calvin | Jan 03, 2019 09:21pm | #7

   SJ

   My curiosity led me here.

   http://www.buydoorhardwarenow.com/cal-royal_cr553s_door_stop

   or this larger size......

   http://www.buydoorhardwarenow.com/commercial_door_stop_holder/cal-royal_cr555s_door_stop

   I started looking at Ives commercial hardware and slipped over to Corbin-Russwin.  Thinking about carriage door hardware, spring loaded stops, .....

   stumbled upon the above.  Something to call about.  Due to the size and weight call upon commercial hardware suppliers.  Potentially even hydraulic car hatchback hdwr.

   Let me know how it ends.

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   DanH | Jan 03, 2019 10:32pm | #9

   Of course, those are for overhead doors, vs the "carriage" door style shown in Softball's picture.

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   calvin | Jan 04, 2019 08:06am | #10

   Dan

   i don’t know what you mean by of course.....

   the two links I posted are for swinging doors not overhead and the hydraulic hatch back only a possible answer to cobbling together a thing that might work.

   comprende?

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   DanH | Jan 04, 2019 08:22am | #11

   The vendors refer to them as "overhead door stops".  It's unclear whether this means a swinging overhead door, a rolling one or somerthing else, but I would not interpret it to mean a side-hinged carriage door.

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   calvin | Jan 04, 2019 10:43am | #12

   Dan

   Glynn-Johnson 450 Series Stop-Only Medium Duty Surface-Mounted Overhead Door Holder is for single acting doors – interior.

   The best door control device is one that operates overhead, with an arm functioning from the jamb to the top of the door. When the door stopping or hold-open does not exceed 110°, this device is by far the most efficient.

   The overhead holder and stop is out of the way, in contrast with floor or wall-mounted stops, which can be a stumbling hazard and are vulnerable to damage by accident and vandalism.

   Glynn-Johnson overhead holders and stops should always be used on doors furnished with door closers, as closers are not door stops and should not be expected to perform that function. Glynn-Johnson overhead stops are designed to protect door closers from violent openings.

   Sizes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

   Butts – Offset Pivots

   Size 3 – 453S, Door Opening, 27-1/16” – 33”

   Size 4 – 454S, Door Opening, 33-1/16” – 39”

   Center Hung

   Size 3 – 453S, Door Opening, 33-1/16” – 39”

   Size 4 – 454S, Door Opening, 39-1/16” – 45”

   Glynn-Johnson catalog

   Glynn-Johnson provides the most complete line of overhead holders and stops, offering solutions for the most demanding door control problems. These surface-mounted holders and stops offer the widest variety of functions, materials and finishes to fit all medium- to light-duty applications.

   Glynn-Johnson 450 series holders and stops provide reliable and versatile surface-mounted overhead door control for all medium to light-duty applications. The visible components are available in a wide variety of architectural finishes to complement any design. The 450 series holders and stops are designed for installation in virtually all types of doors and frames including doors with conventional butt hinges, offset pivots, continuous hinges, swing clear hinges and many other specialty hinges. The templates provided allow for variable mounting positions, ranging from 85° - 110° of opening.

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   calvin | Jan 05, 2019 01:45pm | #15

   Ok

   DanH wrote:

   The vendors refer to them as "overhead door stops".  It's unclear whether this means a swinging overhead door, a rolling one or somerthing else, but I would not interpret it to mean a side-hinged carriage door.

   Did you read the spec's I posted above?

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   Newton_Dave | Aug 10, 2019 02:30pm | #16

   I'd love to find these also. Did you have any luck finding them? Thanks in advance.

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   Newton_Dave | Aug 10, 2019 03:08pm | #17

   I just ordered one of these from Amazon to try: https://www.amazon.com/Glynn-Johnson-705H-SP28-Hold-Open-Overhead/dp/B00HDOYDY0/ref=pd_sbs_328_5/131-6811769-4799817?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00HDOYDY0&pd_rd_r=0d06bb25-70c0-4bcc-bb69-cdb2d9e8bd68&pd_rd_w=zeD0G&pd_rd_wg=D5M4M&pf_rd_p=43281256-7633-49c8-b909-7ffd7d8cb21e&pf_rd_r=BCGVHXSYHSBXZT8YK4H7&psc=1&refRID=BCGVHXSYHSBXZT8YK4H7#customerReviews

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   calvin | Aug 15, 2019 07:45pm | #18

   Dave,
   Come back if you can and post the application and how you liked it.

   Thanks