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circa. 1790 – 1810 … full cape with breezeway & kitchen wing…
windows & trim by others.. we’re here to do a GP Prime Trim watertable and Certainteed Cedar Lap fiber cement clapboards @ 4″ exposure…
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a few challenges...the space above the windows on the right is 14"... the ones on the left are 12"...
and the foundation sticks out 3 " to the right of the stairs... but is flush on the rest of the house..
here's the rest of the front.. we're only doing the front.... the windows and trim and paper were all done by someone else...today we mobilized adn stripped the rest of the shingles...
Monday we'll start solving problems....
*How long you gunna wait for that momma pumpkin to get her babies moved along that fence, before you start to work anyway ?
*Those are roller bearings for sliding the porch out of the way.
*lots & lots of pumpkins...today it was raining so we worked until 9 then went out for breakfast..by the time we got back the sun was out...here's barry at the right corner...we've got a double 2x10 ripped down for a base on our water table...the rest of the front will have a single 2x10...
*here it is with the 1x12 GP Prime trim skirt and 5/4 x 6 GP Prime trim water table...
*here is the transition where the Cape meets the breezeway.....
*OK...I'm looking for the solution to where the deck meets the wall...heh heh heh
*You start work before 9 am ????!!!??
*no..Mike doesn't...his guys do...see Mike has to check his messages get some coffee...play on the internet..get some more coffee...make some calls....get the smoko.....it isn't easy being him.
*Before asking a stupid question, I did a search on "fifth columnist". I didn't come up with much to tell me what this means, but I did run across a webpage wherein someone seems to be talking about our own erstwhile 'senior editor'...i A Short Lesson i At eight o'clock mr Andy goes to work, after making up a sandwich lunch, which he pops into his briefcase along with a bottle of milk, to be consumed at his place of work during the lunch interval at noon. The two children follow suit before setting off for school. Sometime between four and seven the family sits down to a hot meal, and even if the children's boots are a bit muddy Mrs Andy is not unduly worried. Her floors are of polished wood, with a few brightly coloured mats and no thick carpets to absorb the dirt. Afternoon and evening may be spent in a variety of ways. In summer the family often motors out for a picnic in the woods. Next year, Mr Andy intends to buy a motor boat or a small sailing boat, so that they can spend the long summer evenings and the weekend afloat among the islands. In winter the children spend every spare moment on their skis, practising on a floodlit slalom hill ten minutes away. Judged by the standards of the viking age or the hectic days of the gold rush, the life of the Andys is not vastly exciting. Life will follow its even tenor. i Anon.
*well Luka..it's quite simple really...if there is a fifth columnist..then there is also a first, second, third and fourth. Now as a columnist is one who writes for a newspaper etc...Mike has obviously already had four other writers ask him the same question.
*WWII term... "fifth column... a group, within a city or country, of civilian sympathizers with an enemy" a collaborator-- fifth columnist...
*ya hadta spoilit dincha??!!
*I think the print media (newspaper?) is called the Fourth Estate.What are the First, Second and Third?
*one is the church, one is the nobility.. and damned if i can remember the 3d
*The bourgeois ? (Or however you spell that...) (Middle class)Sure wouldn't be us proletariats.
*http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/sieyes.html
*ok.. here's the dubious locus where the porch meets the water table...
*and here's a mock-up of the metal flashing.. the 6.5" siding hung at 4" exposure
*and we took all of the casing off the bottom of the windows (a previous contractor picture framed tehm with 5/4 x 4 )...and barry made up false sills from Trex.. with a rabbet for our clapbds...tomorrow we hang clapbd...
*I don't care what the boss says about you Mike,you do nice work! hehe
*Hey! hang on!...I think you've blown the bid bud.....you weren't supposed to be there the whole time as I recall....3 men one day and 2 men 4 days wasn't it?
*look mate, are u gonna try & run this job from ozzie ?
*wadda ya mean try?...did you make sure you back primed all that stuff..and when you put up the corner boards..make sure you flash em proper..oh yes... and fill out those time cards properley too
*well, boss, hope this meets wit cher approval..the detail where the clapboard meets the porch..
*and the left side with the new sills...
*Mike, I was just thinkling while rolling through these, that even though they look like old hat to me and some old timers, you done well at documenting the steps and this is a good series for a newbie to look through to learn from, not just another "Look at what a good job I've done" gallery thread.Shoot, at least it's got pictures. That's getting rare in the gallery!LOL
*sheeeet, piffin, i document 'em so i can remember where they are in the morning...and how to do it next time...u no... senior moments come more often now..!BTW... they don't build 'em like they used to..thank god!...there ain't nothing straight, plumb, or level on this one.. and most nails miss wood and go into not wood...oh , well.. it sure is an authentic old cape..
*Sheeeeet Mike. I know no one's ever said this to you before, so you might want to sit down before reading further.I am durn proud to know ya maaaaan...
*they don't build 'em like they used to..thank god!... love that line - I've been saying it for thirty years now.I shoot lots of pics for documentation too. It helps with finding the wires that the rockers loose in the walls or find studs to hang to etc Now where was that pipe?????
*No it's not. The first estate is the president and the executive branch, the second is the congress, the third is the courts and the fouth estate, not in the constitution as a government body, but protected, is the press. These are the pillars of our government and the basis of our freedoms - each "estate" balances and checks the powers of the others.Marybtw - interesting job. I like all the detailed pics.
*mary... "estate " comes from france..the traditional estates are as described above.. it is only now that the term is applied to the US that you can describe them as such..anyhoooo..all the trim is done.. with any luck... and assuming i don't have to go play golf tomorrow ( it was 70 here today ).. we'll finish up and move out..installed a new dutch door.....and the wall is out of plumb and so is the opening...alls well that ends...
*wait a minuite....that wall wasn't outa plumb before you started... I see you've got the new yellow stepladder on the job ( lower left ).....how about some shots of the water table where it changes height at the breezeway return?....looking good Mike...Mr C must be pleased.. ( and all before thanksgiving! )hello to those two useles...err ummm hello to Roy and Barry.
*ok... here's the transition....where the breezeway meets the full cape..
*roy is cutting plank with the makita cement saw...it's plugged into a fein vacumn with an auto switch.. so , when you trigger the saw, it turns on the vacumn first...and then turns off the vacumn when you release the saw trigger..cool , huh ?..sure saves on eating a lot of dust...
*here's the right side with the freize installed...the difference above the windows is 1.5 " so we made up 1/2 " in the courses... and the rest in the freize..
*here's a light base detail... two layers of 3/4 GP Primetrim... the bottom is 1" higher than the top.. so it forms a rabbet for the plank...
*I see Roy is still having trouble reaching around the back of his head with the vacumn cleaner
*Hey! Who's been wiping caulky fingers on the laps?
*cleaned up and demobilized....
*care to count the pumpkins one more time ?
*OK Mike- I have to ask. What is that ladder thing on the front porch with the bird house on top?Nice porch BTW. Bob
*Mike.looks a whole lot better...now if you can just get Mr.C to do something about that ridge line...shows up something chronic against the horizontal lines of the plank
*pro... it's a rustic chair / clothes tree / birdhouse / wood sculpture..mark... the house needs more than a new roof line...looks like a job for super remodeler....da, da, da-dah ... here i am to save the day..with my band of merry men....
*wanted to bring this back to show fibercement...
*Mike, the "grain" on the Certainteed looks less pronounced, more real than Hardiplank ....is that your take on it too? Nice Work!
*j... yes the grain is better looking to me... but i actually found it sharper.. not so rounded over.. and less repetition..compared to the Hardie.. Certainteed got into the business by acquisition.. they bought Ashland-Davis.. which used to be Abtco.. also known by trade name DuraPress...on this job we had to choose from the size selections too.. because we were doing 4" exposure..
*Mike,What is the exposed edge like on Certainteed? I'd considered Hardiplank years ago, but felt the bottom edge looked like pieces of cut sheetrock instead of of wooden clapboard.
*jim... it looks like pieces of cut sheet rock... hah, hah, hah...actually... looks pretty good after it's painted.. but about the same as hardie ( the bottom edge , that is) the main difference is the butt is 5/16 while wood clap is 8 or 9 / 16..if you want a more finished edge you can use the "beaded edge"...
*Mike,I think I'll wait till someone developes a fib/cment board that's actually beveled like traditional clapboard. Love the paint holding, none rotting aspects, but I also love the look of real wood.