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   Danusan11 | May 31, 2006 06:51am | #1

   butter the lid, butter the tile

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   apacheman | May 31, 2006 06:59am | #2

   Thanks for info. But is there any special type of thinset morter that I have to use and does the tile need to be supported until it sets?

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   LEMONJELLO | May 31, 2006 10:51am | #3

   Don't really need support, stick one up ther and try to pull it down, pretty stuck! Suction and a good stiff modified thinset will do ya good. I trowell on a section, light backbutter scrape on the tile and stick em' up there. You will quickly figure out how good you are with a trowell too... Thinset tastes nasty.

   <Off the wall>

   Any others guys that do alot of tile have those funny squigly lines in the bottom of your jobsite coffee cups????

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   Danusan11 | Jun 01, 2006 12:33am | #4

   Lemon hit it on the head, watch yours have fun

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   mojo | Jun 01, 2006 01:11am | #5

   Hi Lemonjello.  I know there are volumes in the archives regarding mastic vs thinset for shower walls and many believe mastic should not exist in a wet location.  Would mastic be acceptable for the poster's application? 

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   Danusan11 | Jun 01, 2006 01:32am | #6

   Even tho. the ceiling might not be getting direct water, still too much moisture for mastic. IMO

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   LEMONJELLO | Jun 01, 2006 07:05am | #11

   Thinset. I haven't had a reason to use mastic. Either add acrylic or use a modified thinset.__________________________
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   BobS | Jun 01, 2006 02:42pm | #12

   Lemon - what's the appropriate backer for this if doing it from scratch? You can't put cement board on the ceiling right? Is green board or regular drywall okay?

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   FastEddie | Jun 01, 2006 03:44pm | #13

   You can't put cement board on the ceiling right

   Why not?  It might be difficult to hang a piece of durock cement board, but a piece of 1/4" hardie backer can be easily screwed to the ceiling.

     

   "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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   BobS | Jun 01, 2006 06:34pm | #14

   I know that physcially you can attach it to the ceiling, but I had heard the weight was too much and may cause sagging.

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   FastEddie | Jun 01, 2006 09:37pm | #15

   I would hope that you are screwing the backer board to the studs ... 

   "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

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   TJK | Jun 02, 2006 12:33am | #16

   "I know that physcially you can attach it to the ceiling, but I had heard the weight was too much and may cause sagging."Don't forget about loads from the floor above. Any floor above that's too flexible for tile probably means the joists are too small for a tile ceiling below.

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   LEMONJELLO | Jun 02, 2006 04:34am | #17

   1/4" hardi is my pref. easy to cut and work with. Make sure you've got blocking to attach you backer board to at the edges. Blocking in shower areas is often minimal. Cut a prop stick about1 to 3 inches longer than the ceiling to floor length and prop it in place till you get a handfull on screws in. It will make you life a lot easier than trying to hold up and screw at the same time. Have fun, it will be a learning and slightly challenging till you get the hang of it.Edit: If you have a second floor above, your shower walls hopefully go up to the joists. the partition walls take up enough load from the upper floor and your area is not that big so flexing and popping of ceiling tile should not be an issue.
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   Edited 6/1/2006 9:40 pm by LEMONJELLO

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   BobS | Jun 02, 2006 04:58am | #18

   Actually, its in the 2nd story and the bathroom ceiling is currently drywall furred out beneath the rafter ties. Is attaching to the furring sufficient?

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   CAGIV | Jun 01, 2006 01:35am | #7

   where a hat and saftey glass aren't to bad an idea either, but definatly a hat....

   especially when you grout, easier to ditch a hat then get dried thinset or grout from the hair.

    

   

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   Danusan11 | Jun 01, 2006 01:54am | #8

   What if your bald, couldn't ya just drop some seed in when your done a be a live chia pet?

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   LEMONJELLO | Jun 01, 2006 07:03am | #10

   Good point. I usually do the bandana thing.__________________________
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   MSA1 | Jun 01, 2006 04:17am | #9

   You can use double duty, its a little pricey though. Its actually easier to tile a ceiling than a wall. Vacuum helps hold the tile up whereas when tiling a wall the tile can slide down the wall.