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Ceramic Tile on Tar Paper

JComeau | Posted in Construction Techniques on May 5, 2009 05:24am

Has anyone ever heard of using carpet glue to adhere tar paper to cement and then installing ceramic tile on top?

I work in a show room (windows and doors) where we need a fresh look from time to time time and this “trick” with the tar paper is supposed to simplify the removal of old ceramic and mortar.

Any thoughts?

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  1. brucet9 | May 05, 2009 10:39pm | #1

    Try posting at this tile forum. I'm sure you will get a good answer.

    http://www.johnbridge.com/

    BruceT
  2. BenM | May 05, 2009 11:25pm | #2

    Sounds good for a showroom.  Sounds bad for a permanent installation where you don't want the tiles to be easily removable.

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    EricPaulson | May 05, 2009 11:57pm | #3

    I've seen it done over stapled tarpaper.

     

     

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  4. JTC1 | May 06, 2009 12:30am | #4

    What Ben and Eric said.

    The ringer is the cement substrate.

    If faced with the same problem, I think I would be inclined to lay 5/16" cement board onto the floor with no fasteners, tape the seams just like it was a "real" installation, then lay the tile in thinset onto the cement board, grout as usual.

    A "floating" tile floor.  I expect that removal would consist of picking up one edge and snapping the floor into 3'x5' sections for disposal.

    Somehow, that glued tar paper sounds like a nasty removal process........

    Check johnbridge as someone else mentioned -- they may have the quick / easy /cheap answer to your problem.

    Jim

    Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.
  5. seajai | May 06, 2009 05:05am | #5

    My local tile showroom uses pre-pasted wallpaper over the concrete and then tile. 

    1. BillBrennen | May 06, 2009 06:35am | #6

      Oooohh! Thanks. I like that one a lot. Fast, cheap, water cleanup.Bill

    2. JTC1 | May 06, 2009 02:35pm | #7

      That sounds good!

      JimNever underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

    3. JComeau | May 06, 2009 05:28pm | #8

      Thanks all,

      I like the wall paper idea. I didn't know what to think when the idea was fisrt brought up.

      -jeff

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    Huck | May 12, 2009 04:16am | #9

    That's pretty standard fare around here, except on old concrete, where there's little danger of new cracks.

    Its not for easy removal - its called a "slip sheet" or "isolation barrier", and its so cracks in the concrete from settling or from aftershocks don't telegraph through the tile.

    "...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn

    bakersfieldremodel.com



    Edited 5/11/2009 9:24 pm by Huck

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      jonblakemore | May 12, 2009 04:59am | #10

      But the slip sheet is under a full mud bed, right?That seems counterproductive as far as easy removal goes. 

      Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA

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        Huck | May 12, 2009 05:18am | #11

        But the slip sheet is under a full mud bed, right?  That seems counterproductive as far as easy removal goes.

        Like I said, easy removal is not the goal, or even a factor, but it likely would make removal a little easier.  Its done pretty much exactly as described in the original post: the black paper is glued down with flooring adhesive (the same as you would use to glue a sheet vinyl floor down), and the tile is installed on top of that using thinset."...craftsmanship is first & foremost an expression of the human spirit." - P. Korn

        bakersfieldremodel.com

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