I want a 10″ non-sliding miter saw for light days, I don’t like dismounting my slider from the stand and even when I do, its a PITA for small jobs
recomendations?
I know a bunch of people are going to say dewalt, I have issues with supporting the company, might have to bend them for this..
I know imerc is going to come in here and tell me to by a bosch with a gun to my head.
anyone use the cheapy delta 99 dollar jobs? the look kind a flimsy but for what I need it might fit…
help please..
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Milwaukee...
Or there a three letter brand at Lowes for 50 bucks or so.....
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I use the cheap 99 as an extra on- site saw. It works pretty good. I set the Bosch 4412 (sorry, Imerc didn't put me up to this) up for complicated cuts, and the '99' for strait cuts so I don't have to keep readjusting when we're 'flyin' thre trim jobs. Surprisingly enough, the '99' cuts decent miters, too. I haven't had it long enough for the 'time-test', but I do recommend it. T R
I got the compound Delta b4 it was cheap..still use it for quickie stuff..like 12 yrs now?
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations.
all solid metal, cast table with black metal support rods? back before they changed their color? it's the same color as the unisaw, not that light gray plastic crap...probably around 300 bucks if memory serves...
I got that 10" too... solid saw, works great stays true
problem being, it weighs as much as my damn slider
naw, it's the "sidekick"..aluminum, I got it cuz it was lighter than my old Ryobi...about 189.00 back then..
another good comprimise I have is a Freud 8 1/2 slider...believe it or not..it's a real tuff saw..it was 269.00 in 1990.
but the new bosch slide12 is the jewel..but you knew that..
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Ditto what Jer said. I have one of the 10" Hitachis, got it for $100 closeout at HD years ago. They normally go to 60 deg in one direction. I worked for a customer who had two Deltas, one compound and one not. The compound was a pretty darn good saw, the other would work for franing stuff though. Felt pretty light compared to DW705. I am not sure of that GMC brand from Lowes. Can't see it holding up to hard daily use. Homeowner would probably pass it down to kids though.
Surprised you did not say anything about my meeting Roy W. post a while back.
I got the very cheap green black and decker from walmart. I can not kill it, cut 2x, 4x4. trims. It will not die. But remember its a very cheap machine. I paid $49
Well, you knew it was coming.
I own the DW 12" SCMS (read: beast) and bought the 10" fixed. I love that little saw. It will do almost everything the big guy will, plus it will go up stairs without complaint (from me).
Don't think I've had a chance to try a Bosch fixed yet.
Jon Blakemore
jeff buck had a real cheap chop saw he was raving about.. can't remember which.. might be the Lowes..or the DeltaMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
I have a good slider that gets babied and usually sits in the shop or goes out to those special jobs.I also have a cheapo called Pro Tech that I got as a gift a few years ago... tilts left only - non-slider.
Put a good blade on the cheapo and it does an outstanding job. Also able to carry it one handed up the side of pipe scaffolding to work 15 feet up repairing soffit and fascia. Would not have attempted that with any other of the preferred saws.
It's also my preferred framing saw for repeat straight cuts such as studs, cripples and the hundreds of pieces of blocking we need. Cuts 2x6 straight through and 2x8 by lifting the board at the end of the cut.
About 6 months ago my old backup 10" Ryobi bit the dust and my day to day 12" Dewalt was waiting for a new switch, meanwhile I had several windows to finish the trim on. So I ran out to Lowes to get a cheapie backup. They had a 10" compound Hitachi there for $149. I guess that wasn't bad so I bought it. It's been fine, a bit loud, but cuts dead on. It's very light too. They still have it there I saw. It's nice because of the weight and it's a compound, so if you're doing just shoe or anything light it's perfect. Check it out.
Check out the Hitachi. I've got the Dewalt and don't really care for it. We have a Ridgid at work it's pretty decent also.
Who Dares Wins.
I won't allow myself to by a ridgid, not with them being in bed with HD and Royobi..
Hitachi sounds like a good saw, just wish we had a lowes in town...
I have an 8 inch Hitachi with laser. Boy what a nice saw.
Nice weather for a road trip to KC or Topeka.
Looking online it looks like they have the Delta Shopmaster MS250 for $99 and MS275 for $139
The 275 has a little larger motor and work support.
A road trip to KC perhaps, I avoid topeka at all costs, I swear it's hell on earth.
I hear ya on the Rigids it's what they have at work and I only use it there if I've got to cut a few boards it's really not that bad a saw though.
Hitachi used to be the standard in miter saws I boubt that's the case anymore but my next one will probably be an Hitachi.Who Dares Wins.
I bought one of those cheapie GMC 8" sliders from Lowes for about $129...worked well for about 6 mos then the return spring gave out. Effective for framing material, but had a little too much play for good trim work.
Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!" Then get busy and find out how to do it. T. Roosevelt
hey get over here...
what's that small saw you got and do you still like it?
I just dug out my old Makita LS1030 last week....picked it up and said "hey this thing is nice and small and light, why did I ever quit using this" I only need the sliding compound miter 3 out of 10 jobs, and those things are PIGS...I hate even carrying it....... Downsizing...it's a good thing!
that's my thinking, the slider is a great tool, but it's not needed often enough... If I could find some poor sob to buy my PC 10" slider I'd get the 12" or 10" bosch slider to mount on my table.
either way I want a second miter saw, something small, light and accurate, If I have a lot of trim or something the slider on my delta stand is great, but I had to load the whole set up into my truck the other day for 4 freaking cuts... PITA
CAG, I did the same thing you're talking about. Got sick of hurling around the LS1013 for a quick couple of cuts. Bought that Delta for around a hundred bucks. No regrets here. That was about 3 years ago. I hate when I see framing lumber on my "good" slider. That little delta has cut a bunch of framing for me and countless other items. Electric brake quits every so often, but still serves it's purpose.
I wouldn't cut crown on it, but it does serve it's purpose. If you want to do finer work than what I described, then spring for a DW or equivalent. I don't like Dewalt either, but MAN, do they make nice miter boxes. Not the only game in town, of course, but good boxes at reasonable prices.
Mike's right ....
I picked up the cheapest chop in the west a while ago ...
The main stay is the DeWalt ...
got the Delta because I was tired of carrying the dewalt up into attics for small trim jobs.
The max it'll cut is 3.5 base ...
but for a cheapie/standard paintgrade trim out ...
or ... a kitchen cab trim out ...
it's nice to have in the front of the van if the real chop is burried in the back.
Forget the model number ... think I paid $80 at Lowes.
I can snap a pic tomorrow ...
but if you're cruising the store ...
it's the one so cheap it doesn't even have a table handle knob/lock down.
Just has a little pin sticking out the front ...
you move the miter table by locking the saw head down ... as for transport ... and pulling on the chop handle.
My buddy just borrowed it last week to punch list a $50K kitchen job ... he has that beautiful dewalt slider ... he's gonna have this little piece of crap by the weeks end!
I think it weighs about 20 pounds ... one hand ... over the head ... no problem.
It's 8.5 inches ... found a good blade at sears .... think the blade cost about half what I paid for the saw.
You just gotta draw a full cut line ... and make sure you follow that line ... it's too cheap to follow anything straight on it's own.
I'll see if I can find the model number ....
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
thanks jeff... I'm not looking to go quite so cheap, I think I'm in the 2 bill range, I want something I can use for a decent trim job and not have to worry to much about it being out of square etc...
the 100 buck delta is so appealing based on price, but damn it looks shoddy...
ah well, what's wrong with having an extra miter saw...or 2
the spare i got is the delta 36-225, which is hard to find now but similar to the new ms275. price is less than 200. it got good reviews at the time, and had some good features like slide out side extensions which store under the table. was decently accurate, of course not as nice as my makita slider, but decent for most uses. used it for some outside work, then got the makita for wider stock. for the price and use it was a decent saw; can't say i tried one of the 99 dollar ones, though.
hope this helps. rich.
It's my thread so I can side track it right?
you been watching the shield this season?
the whole thing with Aceveda left a bad taste in my mouth, no pun intended...
if you're not watching it, this season is better then lasts imo
Just finished watching NYPD Blue ... on the tv downstairs ...
as the Shield was being taped upstairs.
Every Tues at 10 it's decision time ... both shows are great this year.
I can't wait to see how that black cops death gets death with ...
man ... never saw that coming ... what a great scene.
Almost as good as the old face to the electric burner .....
Just a few minutes ago ... I watched my very first bit of the Ellen Degeneris(sp?) Show ... the wife told me "Vic" was gonna be on. He's a good interview. My favorite local talk radio guy is a huge fan and arranged to have him on last week. Very cool.
He told one of the same stories .. his real life 10 year old daughter plays his daughter on the show .... and they don't let her watch the show ... "too adult" ....
she gets to see her scenes ... and that's it. Said he doesn't want his daughter to get scared of her own Dad.
We'll usually tape both shows .. and watch them sometime over the following weekend ... can't do that this time .... going on vacation on Fri ... gotta pack Thurs nite ...
better make plans to watch the tape tomorrow.
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
I won't spoil it for you, it was a good episode, at least around here, the new episode of the shield replays at 10, which is 11 your time. they play it at 9 and repeat it an hour later...
one bit of advice, don't be eating past the first 20 minutes or so, I was and almost, now just almost mind you, had to put the food down.
cool!
can't wait to heat up the pizza ....
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
Real men don't buy Yellow power tools!
get a Hitachi or a Makita.
Simple effective reliable cheap
nuff said
Mr T
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Life is is never to busy to stop and pet the Doggies!!
I have a cheap (half plastic) B&D 8" compound miter saw I got probably 10-12 years ago. It's not real accurate (not good for trim) but it's a pretty decent chop saw for 2x4s and the like. And it's plenty light and compact.
Thanks for the all the advice, I went against my prejudice and bought a dewalt...
open box item for 99 bucks at the depot...
as much as I freakin hate dewalt, the saw was the best available and actually looked like a decent tool fitting everything I wanted out of it... less money then I was planning on, 30 pounds so it's nice and portable, and small.
Plus it was raining today and dismounting the slider and putting it in the cab was less then appealing so I bought a new tool instead... smart logic?
That sounds like the Dewalt I have. I mounted it in my work bench for quick cut offs.Who Dares Wins.
wow ...
a hundred bucks huh ...
that's a freaking great deal.
I'm posting the damn pics of my little chop anyways ... since I just downloaded them!
BTW ... the Shield ... just watched it tonight ...
man ... am I glad I didn't get that pizza ... I was thinking .. cool .. sounds gory ....
yech! That's gonna be one messed up dude!
Only way to "cure" that is to kill the other guy ...
where do they think this stuff up?
yech .. gives me ... "the willies"!
That one really "sucked" ...
Ahh ha ha ...
ok .. I'll stop ... getting kinda sick to my stomach ....
gotta delete those mental pics before I go to sleep ......
Jeff
Buck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry
almost bought a delta, they had one for 200, dual bevel 10" it just looked all cheesed out and lame so I passed. price was normally 198 or something on the dewalt, I figure for a hundred bucks it can't be beat, after a few dozen chops today it works great, think it needs trued up though, what I was doing didn't need 90 to be exactly 90 if you know what I mean, so I didn't bother to check it out.
as for the shield and your mental images...
good luck, bothered me all day on and off..
just the way they filmed it, ya know they could have not shown it so "realistic" but then that ain't the way the show is so....
and I agree, the only way to solve his problems are much mental treatment and a bullet or bat to the guys face...
but... they still have that photo....been wondering all day how that's gonna come back into play with him running for city board and all.
My thoughts... Vic takes the guys out, gets the phone or otherwise finds out about the pic, keeps it to himself and banks that as his insurance against claudette et al.
just my thoughts though..
either way, I love the show, but so could have done with out that.
great thoughts on the "wrap up" ...
somethings gotta play out .. and Vic's gonna win somehow ...
could be ...
maybe I'll readjust my mental images to the "muffin man" ....
JeffBuck Construction Pittsburgh,PA
Artistry in Carpentry