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Sailfish | Posted in General Discussion on January 26, 2009 06:03am

Seems the Amish may be the subject matter for the day.

My buddy is looking at a shell “cabin” to be built on his property in TN by the Amish.

They come in, put up the basic cabin complete with siding and roofing and he will finish the rest out (thats his arrangement anyways).

Below is a pic of the cabin model he chose.

1) Why are the studs cut on an angle?

2) Are those headers suffice

3)Whats that PT across the middle for? Is it just something temporary?

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  1. Hackinatit | Jan 26, 2009 06:32pm | #1

    1) If you need to cut the studs to length, it is easier to cut them at the roof angle than cut birdsmouths in the rafters.

    2) It may be for anything...

    A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.

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    Dreamcatcher | Jan 26, 2009 06:44pm | #2

    1) because you can't modify the truss

    2) I'm no engineer but for a roof load that small I would guess it's fine.

    3)the PT looks temporary

    4) one thing don't like is that they didn't us a double top plate nor did they put the trusses directly over the studs. Even on a small cabin or shed I would do one or the other. I would also probably up the lumber sizes so I could get more insulation. In a small structure, framed on 24" oc the extra cost would be minimal.

    DC

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      Sailfish | Jan 26, 2009 07:01pm | #4

      4) yeah I saw that, they did a double bottom plate. He didn't have his good camera on him to get alot of pics (he used cell camera). I'd like to see more pics too-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

      "Good looking people turn me off. Myself included."

  3. sungod | Jan 26, 2009 06:49pm | #3

    1) Easier to cut studs at an angle than a birdsmouth, but did they cut the face of the plate so the exterior sheathing can be nailed flush?
    2)I have seen a lot of old houses with flat 2 X 4 headers, never seen a sagging one. Just install a full sheet of drywall and cut out the window opening, so there will be no joints around the window.
    3) Temporary, may have held up the wall before the roof joists were installed.

  4. joeh | Jan 26, 2009 07:41pm | #5

    Whats that PT across the middle for? Is it just something temporary?

    Haven't you seen the picture of the Amish carrying a barn down the road?

    That's the handle, little cabin like this only takes one big Amish on each side to deliver it.

    Joe H

    1. frammer52 | Jan 26, 2009 11:04pm | #6

      Joe be funny!!!!!!!>G<

  5. Piffin | Jan 26, 2009 11:11pm | #7

    my guess on the angled stud tops is to give a pitch to the top plat so they don't need to cut birdsmouths into the rafters

     

     

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      larryscabnuts | Jan 26, 2009 11:21pm | #8

      I worked in an area where there were a lot of Amish stuff. Personally I think their craftsmanship is over rated. They do good work but not great work.

      1. Snort | Jan 27, 2009 12:52am | #9

        <I worked in an area where there were a lot of Amish stuff. Personally I think their craftsmanship is over rated. They do good work but not great work.>Lumping all Amish work together isn't the way to go. There's Amish craftsmen, and there's Amish looking to make a buck off the English, and I'm sure there's some in between... and that piece of pt is for hanging leaf terbaccyhttp://www.tvwsolar.com

        I went down to the lobby

        To make a small call out.

        A pretty dancing girl was there,

        And she began to shout,

        "Go on back to see the gypsy.

        He can move you from the rear,

        Drive you from your fear,

        Bring you through the mirror.

        He did it in Las Vegas,

        And he can do it here."

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          Sphere | Jan 27, 2009 01:13am | #10

          Or that new stuff "Amish Red".Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

          Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

           

          They kill Prophets, for Profits.

           

           

          1. Snort | Jan 27, 2009 01:24am | #11

            <Or that new stuff "Amish Red".>... it'll make your 'stach fall off!http://www.tvwsolar.com

            I went down to the lobby

            To make a small call out.

            A pretty dancing girl was there,

            And she began to shout,

            "Go on back to see the gypsy.

            He can move you from the rear,

            Drive you from your fear,

            Bring you through the mirror.

            He did it in Las Vegas,

            And he can do it here."

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            Sphere | Jan 27, 2009 01:27am | #12

            Used ta have a convenient hole burnt in mine. Them days are long gone.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

             

            They kill Prophets, for Profits.

             

             

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            FatRoman | Jan 27, 2009 06:44am | #23

            Somethin' like this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84wjPhkO5V0'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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            Sphere | Jan 27, 2009 06:56am | #24

            Used to have a poster here by that name..hmmmm wonder what happened to him?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            Repairs, Remodeling, Restorations

             

            They kill Prophets, for Profits.

             

             

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          larryscabnuts | Jan 27, 2009 02:04am | #15

          Leaf terbaccy. Smokin kind or chewing kind? (petouie)

          1. Snort | Jan 27, 2009 02:20am | #18

            Ceegar wrapper, bigger bucks.http://www.tvwsolar.com

            I went down to the lobby

            To make a small call out.

            A pretty dancing girl was there,

            And she began to shout,

            "Go on back to see the gypsy.

            He can move you from the rear,

            Drive you from your fear,

            Bring you through the mirror.

            He did it in Las Vegas,

            And he can do it here."

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            larryscabnuts | Jan 27, 2009 04:23am | #21

            I chew WOLF long cut mint. 2 bucks a can. I couldn't afford ceegar shaded wrapper leaf.

    2. dovetail97128 | Jan 27, 2009 02:06am | #16

      You cut birdmouths in trusses? Truss roof, they used angle cut studs instead of a taper cut top plate
      They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

  6. MSA1 | Jan 27, 2009 01:38am | #13

    Not crazy about the headers but i do like the angled top plate. Birdmouths are a pain to cut.

    I think the trusses are 24oc and the walls at 16oc so they wouldnt line up anyway.

     

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    1. marv | Jan 27, 2009 02:13am | #17

      I like the angle cut on the studs too.  But it would complicate things when you put a double top plate on.  If you made the plates flush with inside and outside walls, they would be offset on the other plate.  It would make a lousy nailing surface.You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.

      Marv

      1. MSA1 | Jan 27, 2009 02:32am | #20

        Perhaps what you say is correct,

         

        for mere mortals like you and me,

         

        But were talking about the Amish here, remember?:>) 

        Family.....They're always there when they need you.

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    Jeff_Clarke | Jan 27, 2009 02:04am | #14

    Single top plate ... and what the hell is going on with the framing at the windows?

    Jeff

    1. RichMast | Jan 27, 2009 05:52am | #22

      i guess since gable end they saw no need for king/jack/header, so just framed single studs around the window, and the short pieces on the sides are blocking for trim.

      just a guess.Rich

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    Lawrence | Jan 27, 2009 02:32am | #19

    Nope... don't like It one bit.

    Angle wall plate under weight causes failure of entire structure.

    Trusses not aligned with studs is bad enough... but no double, yikes, jump on the roof and I bet is springs like a diving board.

    (Humming banjo solo from deliverence).

    L

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