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Chimney flashing on Halloween (scary) !!

theslateman | Posted in Construction Techniques on October 31, 2006 11:08am

Was hired to reflash this brick chimney-  started today Oct 31

Guess what appeared while removing the slate and flashings?

Picture 59 shows my scary helper.

Notice the many different metals on this old flashing job   lead,galv iron,zinc,and alum ridge vent.

I’ll be using Revere Freedom Grey copper for my roof flashings-then lead for the counterflashings.

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  1. Piffin | Oct 31, 2006 11:16pm | #1

    Would be a good chance to upcharge a change order and do some pointing up while that is open.

    I have lost count of how many bats I have seen under ridge and chimney flashings. They usually hunker down or fly off tho. Good picture.

    You forgot to list Ferrous Oxide amoung the many metals on that chimney, LOL

     

     

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    1. theslateman | Oct 31, 2006 11:20pm | #2

      i've seen quite a few too-but not while toting a camera on Halloween!

      1. davidmeiland | Nov 01, 2006 12:03am | #3

        That's a great looking bat, and I like the nasty scowl he's giving you. Just tell me you let him get outta there instead of dispatching him. We got one in the house thru a hole I had cut into the attic, while we were reroofing. He appeared in the living room one evening flying around very slowly and silently. My wife screamed bloody murder. I turned on the porch light and opened the front door, and turned off all the other lights. Eventually he left, but he did about 50 laps around the house first.

        1. Piffin | Nov 01, 2006 12:35am | #4

          Gotta get up to launch speed before slinging out of home orbit!;) 

           

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          1. davidmeiland | Nov 01, 2006 02:28am | #8

            I had a glass of Jack on the rocks sitting by my chair. He was working up the nerve to touch down for a shot, but figured I might swat him if he hit my sauce. He's right.

        2. JohnSprung | Nov 01, 2006 12:43am | #5

          That would likely have been a male bat.  The female would stop and ask for directions....  ;-) 

           

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        3. theslateman | Nov 01, 2006 01:56am | #6

          David,

          Yes I let him go away of his own volition.

          Bats are extremely voratious on our native insects so they are worth having around-just a little scary when you open up flashing and you see them looking back at you.

          Walter

  2. woodway | Nov 01, 2006 02:19am | #7

    How are you able to get up on the roof without breaking the slate? Just a question that I've always wondered about.

    1. theslateman | Nov 01, 2006 03:23am | #9

      I use a ladder with a peak hook when I can to help distribute the weight over a larger area.  My wooden brackets are over 5 " wide so they also help spread the load.

      When walking on them I try to walk flat footed to help also.  You do sometimes break some-then you must do the repairs too.

      Just like any job,when you get a little experience you can judge your movements so as not to create more work for yourself.

      Walter

      1. DonK | Nov 01, 2006 03:47am | #11

        Walter, Nice work as always.

        I am curious though, have any of the bats you've disturbed been nasty towards you? I've got old closed chimneys in the VA house and I am nearly positive there are several in there. Last summer a guy was painting the roof (metal) and at dusk there were a bunch around the chimney.

        Wondering what the proper protocol is. Not looking to kill them, but if they get to be a PITA...

        Don K.

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        1. theslateman | Nov 01, 2006 11:34am | #12

          They are usually groggy when woken up like this during the day. He keep chattering at first then crawled into the crevice on the ridge cap opposite to where I was working.

          He remained there until 3   from 10 that morning    until  I prodded him to move again.  He then flew across the road into a big pine tree.

          I've never had one dive bomb or attack me but it may happen.

          Thanks   Walter

        2. Piffin | Nov 01, 2006 02:09pm | #13

          They are not aggressive, just thrilling when zooming around looking for a way out when they get trapped inside. Hold still and you become like a brick wall to them. What self respecting bat wants to lose his pilots license by flying into a brick wall? But I wonder about an enclosed space that is essentially their home where they have young'uns. It seems as tho they might possible want to gang up on you...I don't know. 

           

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    2. JohnSprung | Nov 02, 2006 01:11am | #17

      Same problem here in LA with clay tile.  I just get a guy who has some experience and only weighs 130 lbs. to do it.  Myself, I'd do more harm than good up there.  

       

      -- J.S.

       

      1. woodway | Nov 02, 2006 01:57am | #18

        Yes, the only thing worse for walking on is the metal/sand coated fake tile roof . They put it down over every other roof that's there first and you can't walk on it, ever!

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    McDesign | Nov 01, 2006 03:33am | #10

    Man, does that look better!

    Forrest

  4. gtmtnbiker | Nov 01, 2006 03:54pm | #14

    Last summer, I needed to paint the gable vents on my house. I went up on a ladder in the day time and noticed that there was a bat asleep between the vents. So I waited until s/he left at  dusk time, did some scraping and painted the first coat.

    The next day, I needed to put on a second coat and saw that the bat wasn't in the vent. Good, now I can paint the second coat in the day time.  So I went up there and started painting vigorously, sticking my brush between the louvers when all of a sudden the bat flew out right past my face.

    Wow, what a scare for a moment.  I now remember to thoroughly check the vents as they can really scrunch themselves up small.

  5. Bentstick | Nov 01, 2006 04:52pm | #15

    Will you post a couple of after pictures.

    Thanks.

    If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,

    Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,

    I wouldn’t have to charge you!!

    1. theslateman | Nov 01, 2006 11:41pm | #16

      Yes  I will.

      I'm putting on some more today of making the "pans" for the base of the chimney-it's on the ridge so it has two bottom pans and no upper.

      The chimney needs to be rebuilt next Spring so I'm only flashing the roof for now-the lead counterflashings will be redone when the new brickwork is laid up.My mason won't have time before freeze up to get to the topping.

      These pictures illustrate making up and soldering the pans,both front and back sides. One also shows the old galv. pan that I'm replacing

    2. theslateman | Nov 12, 2006 12:07am | #19

      This is a different chimney,but it shows the lead counter flashings coming down over the lead coated copper pan and step flashings.

      Hope you're still interested in the finished shots.

      Walter

      1. Bentstick | Nov 12, 2006 12:15am | #20

        Looks nice. It looks like your new counters cover up all of the nice black stuff which was on the brick.

        Are lead flashings around a chimney traditional? I noticed in another thread, half of a copper valley was being replaced. Why would they not use copper for chimney flashing?

         

        Nice work.

        If it wasn’t for the Bank Payments,

        Interest, Taxes, Wages, and Fuel Costs,

        I wouldn’t have to charge you!!

        1. theslateman | Nov 12, 2006 12:22am | #21

          The roof flashings are lead coated copper on this last chimney flashing,but traditionally sheet lead is used as counterflashing in our area.

          It's more malleable to form in the reglets that are ground out and to turn the front corners-but you could use copper for both the roof and counter flashings if thats what the customer wanted.

          Walter

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