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Christmas Tree at Ridge

Framer | Posted in General Discussion on December 19, 2004 03:16am

Today for the first time ever I nailed a Christmas Tree into the highest ridge on the new addition instead of a branch and we also put lights on it. This is all done at the owners request. He’s also a landscaper and he brought the tree there first thing this morning and couldn’t wait till we put it up. He was all exited and then stopped by around 5 pm to see the lights in the dark. I was cracking up. At least we had some fun today.

Joe Carola
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  1. masterofnon1 | Dec 19, 2004 04:20am | #1

    FRamer, love it!  You don't see it too often any more.  Forty years ago, as a kid I remember every building under construction and ever crane had a tree!  Fun memories.

    1. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 04:46am | #2

      I haven't put one up in a while but today was a first for a Christmas Tree and then the lights and also the star on top. Got to love the owner.Here's a shot of the Christmas Tree at Rockafella Center I took on Sunday and a picture of my son with the everyone skating in the background. We go every year because it's my birthday and we take my son to see the Christmas show and then go see the tree and all the people ice skating. It's a nice evening.Joe Carola

      1. FramerT | Dec 19, 2004 05:01am | #3

        I was hopeing to see you and joey do some ice-follies.lol You don't skate,Joe?
        I didn't do it....the buck does NOT stop here.

        1. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 05:24am | #4

          I haven't skated in years but this year we're going to take Joey because he hasn't gone yet but he loves to wrestle. He's the last one on the right with the blue shirt on doing handstand pushups.Joe Carola

          Edited 12/18/2004 9:25 pm ET by Framer

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    IMERC | Dec 19, 2004 10:53am | #5

    framer....

    get Irfanview for crying out loud....

    PLEASE!!!!!

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!!   What a Ride!

    1. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 11:18am | #6

      I have Irfanview and Serif Photo Plus and they both say that my pictures are 640x480 pixels. I thought that was small enough for everyone. The pictures I took of the tree on the roof and the tree at Rockafella Center are from my digital camera and when I downloaded them to HP Imaging Zone program that I have I shrunk them to 640x480. I must have to adjust my digital camera so it takes smaller pictures.Now the pictures taken of my son wrestling were taken from my camera phone and I made a couple at 448x336 pixels and 1 at 640x480 pixels but they say 43kb, 32kb and 35kb.The other ones are all at 640x480 pixels but they are 240kb, 239kb, 283kb and 273kb...........I don't get it.This picture I just shrunk and it says 352x264 pixels and 99.2kb. Tell me if it's small enough please.Joe Carola

      Edited 12/19/2004 3:20 am ET by Framer

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        goldhiller | Dec 19, 2004 07:42pm | #9

        Joe,Look at your dpi setting on those pics.Higher dpi means more data in same size pic. Anything over 96 dpi is pretty much a waste on a monitor. 75 works fine usually, too. Reducing dpi will drastically reduce file size.When editing a pic to post, reduce size AND/OR the dpi, hit "sharpen" once to clean things up, then save that edited version under a different name if you want to save the original file as is. Save modified pic, close window...........and then reopen the new saved/modified pic file. Now you should see the actual file size, etc.JPGs are a little lossy in quality for printing, but doesn't make much difference on a monitor. But/so ....for printing purposes, you may want to save the original with the higher dpi rather than overwrite it with the reduced version........no matter the file format.Knowledge is power, but only if applied in a timely fashion.

        1. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 08:11pm | #10

          This picture when I first opened it up in HP Imaging Zone read this.72 pixels/inch (dpi)Estimated size
          (uncompressed):
          9.437.18 KBResized for Webpage Display
          72 pixels/inch (dpi)
          921.60 KB
          Press Apply
          Image 640W, 480H (pixels)The first picture is the size above.The second picture I resized on Serif Photo to 424W X 318HTell me if the second one is to big also.Joe Carola

          1. rez | Dec 19, 2004 09:51pm | #12

            If you elect not to use the Irfanview program, I would think that somewhere on the resizing program you are using the potential resides to get a full size photo posted at between 50 and 75 KGs.

            By full size I mean filling the whole window instead of ending up with a smaller pic somewhere in the upperleft corner.

            It's just finding which tabs to click. Maybe find someone who uses that same program.

            What I did to get this pic was use your previous 265KG pic, ran it thru Irfanviews 'set file association' and left it that same size of 640x480 to get the 76K and saved.

             

            Edited 12/19/2004 1:57 pm ET by rez

          2. rez | Dec 19, 2004 10:15pm | #13

            Here's the same pic using the same process only changing the size from 640x480 to 300x225.

            For what it's worth I think the answer to the riddle lies somewhere in the jpg file setting. Perhaps you could try resetting the file to a jpg even though it already says jpg. 

          3. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 10:35pm | #14

            Rez,I just found a Custom setting and I shrunk it to the same 300x225 as yours staying in the HP Image Program. I'll try the Irfanview also. I'm just trying to keep it simple when I download the pictures from my camera. I just want to be able to adjust the size from one program and post them here at the right size. So here goes.Joe Carola

            Edited 12/19/2004 2:35 pm ET by Framer

          4. rez | Dec 19, 2004 10:40pm | #15

            bzzzzz. Error. No milk bones for you.

            Size is right tho. Got to find the path from the little corner shot to the big picture.

            The size adjustment should remain at around 640x480 regardless to fill the page..

            be a picture show 

             

            Edited 12/19/2004 2:42 pm ET by rez

          5. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 10:40pm | #16

            Here's another shot at 480 x 360. Tell me if this one is to big.Joe Carola

          6. rez | Dec 19, 2004 10:47pm | #17

            That is called getting an almost passable result without affecting the process which takes you to the desired end.

            Somewhere around 640x480 is the permanent setting as that's the size of final pic. The process of  jpg setting I believe is the direction for attention.

            Maybe try using the 256K picture you already posted earlier. Save it and run it thru your program and see if that works.

            Is there an experienced hand with this out there viewing that can lend an assist here?

             

            be a pioneer

             

            Edited 12/19/2004 2:51 pm ET by rez

          7. rez | Dec 19, 2004 11:20pm | #18

            Here's the thread about Irfanview.

            http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=24441.1 

          8. Framer | Dec 20, 2004 12:51pm | #21

            Thank You Rez. I appreciate your help.Joe Carola

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        IMERC | Dec 20, 2004 03:36am | #19

        more  gooder...

        the other guys nailed the replies just fine....

        Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

        WOW!!!   What a Ride!

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        SamT | Dec 20, 2004 04:01am | #20

        Framer,

        The filesize has as much, or more, to do with the JPEG compreesion ratio as it has to do with the image size (pixel count)

        I've taken the original bachshall_christmas_tree_at_ridge_x2.jpg at 283KB and saved it at 75%, 50% and 35% compression so you can see the difference in image quality. All the images are still 640x480, but look at the file sizes.

        I have found that saving a 640x480 at 65% to be a good size with no visible (to my poor eyes) distortion.

        SamT

        Edit: I use ACDSee. Right click the image, select convert, set the slider in the options box to the % I want, and viola. Look at it , check the filesize, if I want it smaller, do it again. The three attachments took less than 1 minute for all three.

        If you want, email me your address and I'll send you a floppy. My version is a shareware, so it will be legal.

        st

        Edited 12/19/2004 8:11 pm ET by SamT

        1. Framer | Dec 20, 2004 12:53pm | #22

          Thank You also Sam. I appreciate your help too. I trie to look up your email and I get this.You're registered as under 13 years old.
          This feature is not available to you in accordance with the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act.I guess I'm just a 40 year GOON because I can't even register right......Joe Carola

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            SamT | Dec 21, 2004 05:36am | #23

            Framer,

            That must be a Prospero thing, 'cuz I've received Emails thru here before.

            I'll email you my E-address.

            SamT

            Edit: Your email tells me that that feature is "Not available for the selected user."

            I'll reply to your post and select

            View Image

            Edited 12/20/2004 9:39 pm ET by SamT

          2. brownbagg | Dec 21, 2004 07:07am | #24

            they do it all the time around here, "The Topping out party" It was alway a story that by cutting down all the trees to make a building that some would not live to gain the height in nature , so someone alway cut a small tree and nailed it to the highest point, so the tree could see the valley.I alway thought it was B/S but it was a great idea for a party. Like a good luck symbol.

    2. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 12:06pm | #7

      I shrunk the picture down to 100kb's and look how much smaller then the picture of my son that say says Joey doing handstand push ups and that's only 43kb's and it's twice the size. I still don't get it.Maybe it has to do with Percent when shrinking the pictures but I always thought everyone says 640x480 pixels is good for everyone.Joe Carola

      1. rez | Dec 19, 2004 03:50pm | #8

        Joe-

        I took your first pic, saved it. opened it with Irfanview, set file association to jpg, clicked on resize to find it already acceptable at the 640x480 so saved as and here's what it finished at...

        I've started to always use the set file association regardless if the pic says jpg or not, unless I'm sure of the process as with my own camera from experience.

        Not sure of the mechanics of why it works but it seems using the set file associations resets the pic somehow to work well in the downsizing for posting here.

         

        Edited 12/19/2004 7:58 am ET by rez

  3. Framer | Dec 19, 2004 09:16pm | #11

    Hope these are small enough.

    Joe Carola

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