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church divider wall

howardroarke | Posted in Construction Techniques on February 1, 2004 06:52am

The attached photos show a divider wall in a church which we need to move.  Anyone have any ideas as to how the wall fits together?? I assume that the posts are held in place by tension rods bolted to the floor.  Beyond that I wonder how  the wall panels are attached to the posts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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  1. KRettger | Feb 01, 2004 06:12pm | #1

    howard,

    That's a beautiful piece of millwork, be a real shame to mess it up. A few quick questions.

    What is the metal accent on top of the post? Is this something that can be removed to access a mechanical fastening device/system or just ornamental?

    Is this piece of millwork to be moved or removed?

    What is the floor made of?

    Who was the craftsman or shop who designed and made this? Do you have any plans or spec. sheets left over from its construction and or installation?

    Out of curiosity why do you need to "move" the millwork?

    Lastly, if you plan to reuse this artwork, do not mess with it until someone who routinely works with this level of a product for a living gives you expert advice in writing, and if possible a written contract and guarantee that this "move" can be done without ruining this fine piece.

    Some of the pros and contractors who regularly post here a BT handle "hi level" millwork and may have good ideas, but I have got to tell you it's pretty tough to tell exactly how to go about this without having it in front of you for a "hands on" look at this nice piece.

    Good Luck

    Cork in Chicago

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      Sphere | Feb 01, 2004 06:28pm | #2

      Thats true Cork, I have installed pipeorgans in churches and things of that nature had to be removed either permanently or temp. to get the organn in..the only real safe thing is carefully start with the base molding, and if it is nailed pin punch the nails IN not pull them out. Hands on is best.

      Cork I did a church in Chicago..um..st. andrews..near Lake shore ..12 yrs ago.in Feb. lotta work outside, no room inside..never want to do that again..

      Go Stab yourself Ya Putz! Ya think I Parked here?

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      howardroarke | Feb 02, 2004 08:38am | #5

      Thanks to all responses:

      1.  The decorative cap is an escutcheon with a nut on top, I assume threaded to the tension rod.

      2. We are moving the wall to the back of the chancel area to open up the front of the church;  at present the wall separates the chancel  and choir from the sanctuary.

      3. The existing floor is hardwood with carpet on top.  We are intending to install laminate flooring on the new open chancel.

  2. Piffin | Feb 01, 2004 07:10pm | #3

    It's awfully hard to tell from here, but what that looks like to me is that the metal cap piece is a decorative top of am all thread torsion bar centered in the newel post. It also looks like once it is loosened, the cap piece of wood will lift off. If all this is right so far, I would assume that there are bolt conections accessable within the post holding the adjacent wall to the post.

    I'd only give myself a 35% proibability of being right is all. You really do need someone experienced and conservative to be supervising this deal.

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    1. rasconc | Feb 01, 2004 11:40pm | #4

      My thoughts exactly, if someone else is doing it I give it about 80% probability.  If I had the job then more like 10% prob.

      Sorry to hear about the attack of the rogue hammer.  Best of luck.

      Bob

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