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My (patient and understanding) finace and I bought a 1967 vacation cottage in Wisconsin in March of 2001. The house is ~800ft^2 and there was no garage. The first thing I did was build a shed for some storage.
I built the shed in the style I was considering for the garage (major project #2) The following pics show both. The plan is to finish off a living space above the garage in the next 2-3 years and while saving to build a new main house. Then, move into the loft and build the house.
I am way behind schedule because I volunteered to help with a high-school robotics program that ran for 6 weeks starting in early Jan. ( www.usfirst.org/robotics )That was very rewarding, but it did test the patience of my better half. That is now over and I can get back to building.
2 co-workers helped lay the block foundation and I have gotten the occaisional, neighborly hand for some very heavy lifting; but, for the most part, I have done the whole thing by myself.
Anyhow, Taunton has been a huge inspiration to try and be creative. I think of the style as “Contemporary Craftsman”. Being in a rather rural area has spared me from the homogenizing effects of neighborhood associations; however, I still want to build something that appeals to more than just us.
What do y’all think?
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Just the garage, a little further along. (Thank heaven for the mostly mild Winter this year)
The bumpout, while cantilevered "in" 5x greater than "out", will still get post supports eventually.
That little roof detail was very difficult for me, but I think it will be OK.
*Here is the view from the window that will face the lake. You can see the "main home" here. A neighbor's wife come over when we were doing the foundation and said, "your garage will be bigger than your house"I smiled and said, "as it should be. . ."
*One other thing. The previous owners were the three adult children of the original owner. They cut down 16 big trees surrounding the house and left all the stumps at about 3' high. The root systems were still alive so they grow into big bushes. I understand the the improperly maintained trees had become a hazard to the house (I think they were poplar or other similar fast growing hardwoods); but what a loss. . .We hope to take care of those this Spring.
*Jim, it looks pretty good. Is the three car garage neccessary after the house is built or will this become your shop? I have ideas along the same lines. Start with a shop(instead of garage) and loft and work on house over time. I'm looking for land were I live right now but prices are astronomical. Good luck and keep us posted with some interiors when you can.
*Yes, George, you are correct the 3 car size is to have lots of room for a shop. Thanks for the compliment.The main house plan will have an attached 2 car that will be used for, well, cars. (that's the plan anyway) My "Stuff" is like gas, it tends to expand to fill the space available; be it desk space, floor space, shelf space, whatever. . .I took care with the stair layout and ceiling height to keep flexibility in mind. The bay that is closest to the lake side could be converted to a lower level sitting room for the loft if desired. I forgot to mention this before: the clerestory windows face South. The low Winter sun comes in directly under the overhang, but the high Summer sun will be blocked. There are no windows or openings on the North side.
*If its all shop, why the three garage doors?It already looks nicer than my house! :(
*Roger, dont feel bad. As you can tell by the picture labled "shed and house", it's nicer than mine too.
My Pictures are Gone :-(
How will I bathe in the celebration of compliments if my pictures are gone?
Or, should I assume that the reason they are gone is that they are not worthy of this site? ;-P
By the way, right clicking and opening a message thread in a new window is the way to go with this new format.Steelkilt Lives!
Ok, one last time I will try and post a picture-
I've now got two of the three fascia/gutter systems up. Working alone, without scaffold, is growing a bit old.Steelkilt Lives!
Jim,
Your garage looks great. I remember seeing some pics you sent when posting about garage door header strength. Everything really looks nice.
Only question I have concerns the "bump out" area. Did you intend all along to make that a "bump out" ( extra light for office area?) or was that going to be an outside stairway, and you simply decided to change it?
Just curious. From your earlier pics I thought that was going to be a stairway, but what the heck do I know!
How much square footage with adequate headroom does the loft area give you?
I too like this design...perhaps my next shop will be this design.
Davo
Some nice Barn/Garage designs that might also be of interest...
http://www.backroadhomes.com/
bg
Hey, BillG,
Thanks for the link. Lots of nice pics!
Davo
Thanks for posting this link. They have some pretty good designs there.Tamara
It was always going to be a bump out. It will have a built-in seat, with the back rest being the North wall of the bump out (there is no window on that side). It is on (5) 11-7/8 I joists, 16"oc cantilevered in about 13', out about 3'. I will be adding supports, but I can't decide on Craftsman Style Brackets or Post and Lintel.
What do you think?Steelkilt Lives!
Hi JIm.
I kinda like the bracket idea rather than a post & beam scenario. If the brackets you have in mind extend down too far to where someone walking underneath will bump into it ( a "headache beam") then, I would opt to install a post and beam.
If I installed a post and beam, I would further opt to sheath it so to make your bump out look like a turret, rather than a bump out. You could install a door and use this space underneath for storing garden tools etc.
Just a thought.
BTW,
Your blue metal roofing looks ok to me. How does that go on? Do you install clips over the one edge, and the other edge of the next piece snap-locks in place? Do you like working with the metal roofing? I like the sleek look it gives.
Davo
I ordered the roof panels to length. The distributor/local rep/installer then bends up j-channel, gutters, drip edge from 10' stock he keeps on hand. He was reluctant to let me "DIY" but I did my 8x16 "prototype shed" using scraps and that turned out OK-not perfect, but OK.
You put J at the top and sides, drip or gutters at the bottom. The first panel goes into the J at one end and every 18" or so gets a "clip". The clip is held down with 2 3/4" galv screws (I used coarse thread drywall screws, he uses oval head cap, I think)
Each clip has two 3/4" or so tabs. One is bent down over the panel that's already there, the other is bent down (by hand, amazingly it all holds VERY securely) over the next one installed. After two panels are in, there are pre-cut seam covers (same length as the panels) that tightly snap over the seams.
When you are done, you measure for your caps and eave trim and those get made and attached to the top and side J-channel. It is the eave trim that on the shed is "just OK" I will probably have them do it for the garage.
For venting, I put cor a vent strip vent behind the gutters. Ran Air channel from eave to ridge, and then cor a vent ridge vent at the top. It's actually half a ridge vent at the top of the South Roof.
I hope that was clear . . .
For the bump out, I was acutally leaning towards the post and lintel using a little pegged joinery with decorative cuts on the over hanging ends of the lintel. I was then going to put some lattice on the posts and perhaps use the space behind for the power and gas meters. (that end of the garage is closest to the road and they are moving the power from o'head to underground at the road in next 2-3 years)
I may sketch it out and take a poll ;-)
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AAAAARGH-
The South roof is done and I was flying on the small roof over the clerestory windows (only needing two clips for the 24" panels makes it go very fast) With about 10 panels to go I ran out of clips!
The guy from the roofing company filled up a box with clips for me and said, "this should be enough." and "put them about every 18 inches or so"
Mind you I have not even started on the 19' panels for the North roof-
I figure I am about 500 short. Very annoying when you are doing it alone on the weekends. . . .
I have a customer to visit at 1 on Monday; guess I'll swing by the roofing place first.
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Oh, yeah. Davo, Foot print is 25 x 40. Usable upstairs floor height depends on how tall you are ;-)
There is 5'8" of head room below the clerestory windows. That beam is 8' from the south wall, under a 6-12 pitch. So that area will get built-ins and such.
The North wall is 4' high, leading up at a 4-12 for a run of 16' to a height of about 10-1/2'. I can get about 6 feet or so from the North wall before the ceiling gets close.
Short answer, about 400 to 600 sq ft, but it will be maximized as much as possible.
I'll take some interiors (still unfinished) and post.Steelkilt Lives!
Only 2-3 months behind schedule!
So far, the reaction seems to be favoarable. I was a bit concerned that the blue roof would not be well received. However, the prototype shed that I built had the blue roof for nearly a year and the roofing materials for the garage sat in the yard for a month or two. I figured if anyone had a serious complaint, they'd have registered it by now.
I also ask neighbors as I see them (walking, stopping by to check progress, etc.)
Weather permitting, I will get the roof panels all on this weekend.
I like the blue roof.... it really complements your pink walls.
The roof is male, but the walls female (or maybe it's a cross dresser?) The pink will be covered by siding, so maybe it will just have hidden "issues"?Steelkilt Lives!