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COLD temps & Vinyl siding ???

maddog3 | Posted in General Discussion on December 23, 2007 07:45am

so our neighbor down the road had an addition built this past Summer, not a big job IMO but for some inexplicable reason the thing is taking forever to finish.
the builder is over there EVERY damn day including the weekend..don’t know why and don’t really care, except for the Tyvek flapping in the breeze since September !

is it too cold to side the house ? if it is what the heck is going to happen to any moisture behind the housewrap

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  1. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Dec 23, 2007 07:55pm | #1

    Sometimes it's too windy to do siding but average cold it's usually a big deal.  Probably waiting for the siding crew to get there...or the materials.  The moisture shouldn't cause any problems. 



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      maddog3 | Dec 23, 2007 08:05pm | #2

      that must be some special siding. the place was closed in at the end of August or Early Sep. and right now the wind chill is 9ºmaybe INS took his siding crew away ?.

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        Matt | Dec 24, 2007 12:11am | #4

        like said above, vinyl siding and cold are no big deal except that it makes the job a little harder since the material isn't as flexable.  You just install with larger expansion gaps.

        As far as the moisture, vinyl siding breaths to a certain point so it won't trap moisture.  Every horozontal lap vinyl siding I have seen has little holes up under the edges of the faux "laps".  That said, I would hope that the thing isn't totally soggy when the siding is installed.

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          maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 01:56am | #6

          the seams vertical on the house wrap, so I thought rain could get in there and get trapped.

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            Matt | Dec 24, 2007 02:26am | #9

            Well, the housewrap is supposed to breath too....  Really though, there shouldn't be to many vertical seams, especially on something as small as an addition.

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            maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 02:35am | #10

            well just driving by it sure looks like the whole thing is vertical.we also can't figure out what is taking so long inside that he needs to be there seven days a week... even Thanksgiving.the floor plan isn't that complex, it's just one level with a cath ceiling, and a new basement the only real problem seems to be the view from the big room......, you look right at the garage.

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          3. MattSwanger | Dec 24, 2007 05:10am | #11

            The days he has worked doesn't concern me.  I work alot of days I probably shouldn't,  tommorrow being one that comes to mind.  But HO's want their jobs done before you start and this is how it's done during the holidays. 

            I give them the option of me working on or around holidays,  if they don't want me there that is of no issue to me.  If they do then again I have no issue with that either.

            Additions can be long strung out projects,  once the new shell is up all the work has to be done to tie everything in together  new and old.   Once you open up anything old anything can and usually does happen.  Faulty wiring,  understructured framing,  the possibilities are endless. 

            He is probably doing everything himself for the most part. 

            It might be his case is like mine.  I can't get done with most jobs anywhere near my schedule anymore.  One thing leads to another and before you know it 5 months have flown by.  The "since you're already here" 's start to add up in a hurry. 

            Merry Christmas  Woods favorite carpenter

             

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            maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 05:52am | #12

            this job was "done" in early October, the interiors were trimmed, painted, and the basement was all that was left to do.

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          5. MattSwanger | Dec 24, 2007 06:09am | #13

            That rules out my "giving him the benefit of the doubt"  theory. 

            Maybe plans to reside the whole house in the spring maybe?  I'm reaching here,  I'm running out of material. 

            Next is letting the siding "acclimate".  LOL  Woods favorite carpenter

             

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            MarkH | Dec 24, 2007 04:00pm | #14

            Only thing I have to add is: What does the woman of the house look like?

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            maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 04:39pm | #17

            LOL they are both in the 60s and the house is empty, it's their summer place...the husband said before this whole thing started that the project was her problem!
            that he was going to stay out of the picture and so far he is a man of his wordshe shows up here maybe once a week hangs around for a few minutes and scoots on home..sometimes she toots the horn when she drives by... they were supposed to have Thanksgiving there..I think it is a case of the typical first time remodel ignorance since the start date was around 60 days later.

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  2. MattSwanger | Dec 24, 2007 12:09am | #3

    We put vinyl up in any temperature.  

    It's not too cold to put siding up,  it might be too cold for the builder to be outside. 

    Close to 50 this morning with rain,  melted off about 8-9" of snow we had on the ground.  By the end of the day it was 20 and snowing again. 

     

     

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      maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 01:54am | #5

      yeah it's been crappy down here all day too ,I assumed it was a weather holdup since there isn't any siding, in almost four months.

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      1. MattSwanger | Dec 24, 2007 02:01am | #7

        4 months is a long time to be exposed,  the Tyvek might start breaking down. 

        I would have sided it right after the roof was done. 

        Now he has to worry about hit wires and pipes inside the walls. 

         Woods favorite carpenter

         

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          maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 02:24am | #8

          I'm going to take a walk over there tomorrow have a look see.

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  3. Piffin | Dec 24, 2007 04:23pm | #15

    so how cold is it?

    If thirty below zero, it is probably too cold

     

     

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      maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 04:26pm | #16

      it's around 20º wind chill is 9....

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      1. john7g | Dec 24, 2007 04:58pm | #18

        wind chill doesn't change the thermometer or affect vinyl

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          maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 05:04pm | #19

          It affects me, let me tell ya..:)there isn't any siding on the job yet. not on the ground or even in the garage, there was a seabox there but it's long gone
          so maybe the contractor is keeping it warm at his place.

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      2. Piffin | Dec 24, 2007 05:24pm | #20

        That's just starting to get cold enough for a jacket and gloves! Nailerup 

         

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          maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 05:39pm | #21

          Piffin, that is too cold for me anymore,
          i hang out in gear rooms and heated buildings,
          but I don't have a problem watching other folks freeze while I'm inside.

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    CaptainMayhem | Dec 24, 2007 08:50pm | #22

    I can honestly say(writing this from interior Alaska  -10 right now) that no temperature has stopped me yet. I framed a small 12x16 addition last winter when it was -30.It's miserable, but it can be done..

    I vinyl sided a house after the first snow this year..it sucked, but the finished product was as good as any other temp/time of year.

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      maddog3 | Dec 24, 2007 09:07pm | #23

      Captain.......Mayhem?.

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        CaptainMayhem | Dec 25, 2007 05:04am | #26

        Mad....Dog????

  5. MSA1 | Dec 24, 2007 11:54pm | #24

    I learned how to side when it was 5 degrees outside.

    Perhaps this builder is simply a "jockobot".

    Its never too cold to work outside. 

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      maddog3 | Dec 25, 2007 12:55am | #25

      well he is there today and it looked like he was caulking around windows..??????or repairing all the damage from the winds that tore through here yesterday.his migrant tapers came to our house one day asking for water, but have not seen them since . maybe they did get nailed by INS.

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        Matt | Dec 25, 2007 05:36am | #27

        Maybe the job needs some construction management.  Perhaps you should stop by and offer your services.

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          maddog3 | Dec 25, 2007 12:45pm | #28

          I did provide some guidance during the initial demo phase,there was some confusion as to where they could park there trucks and vans.
          they mistakenly thought my property was the parking lot, even though their work was across the road.
          and because of my lack of communication skills, I had to explain it twice to the man running the job
          either that or he must have some sort or problem with his memory, because I ended up explaining it to him in biological terms referencing his mom a few times, at any rate, I have the nicest ruts in my lawn that will make mowing this coming Spring a fun time.he did say there was no charge for them. but even though he did some landscaping for nothing and on my property no less I did not get him anything for Christmas, but I do wave my finger at him sometimes.

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          1. HomeSolutions | Dec 25, 2007 02:17pm | #29

            Well now rhe truth is coming out you ar po,ed at the guy for parking on your property. I thought it was just your concern of the vinyl siding. could you maybe just pull a curtain on that side of your house so you do not haave to watch your neighbor or maybe just get a good book to read.

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            maddog3 | Dec 25, 2007 04:31pm | #31

            who me? nah, the neighbor and I get along just fineI really am wondering WTF is taking so long to finish a small job.FTR I work in construction too, just not on homes anymore.

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            Matt | Dec 25, 2007 02:55pm | #30

            Your too funny!!  Since you have made a new friend, maybe they could fix your yard when they do the final landscaping over there. :-)

            Merry Christmas to you and yours!

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            maddog3 | Dec 25, 2007 04:45pm | #32

            I won;t lose sleep over it , I really feel sorry for the neighbors though, they had plans for the holidays in the new digs, but for whatever reason the job started about 60 days latewith the siding just not appearing, I honestly wondered if it was too cold, but that has been answered, so the delays must be due to something else.

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