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Collated Screw Drivers for Decks

Handydan57 | Posted in General Discussion on November 1, 2009 05:01am

Good Day:

Does anyone have experience with Senco’s Duraspin Driver for Deck applications? Any experience with similar extended drivers for decks?
Here in Boston I do a lot of repairs on older homes built of wood where the composite decking, hidden fasteners etc are not what the clients want.

thanks

Handy Dan

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  1. whitedogstr8leg | Nov 01, 2009 08:51pm | #1

     I've used an "older" version of the Senco Driver (14V).    The "biggest" problem was the bits,  they would were out fast.   Battery life was "so-so".    For decks, they should be okay.   The ones I wore out were used to make a "temp." wall about 350' long by 50' tall.   We went through screws by the bucket full.  

    " Although I have the right to remain stupid, I try not to abuse that right"
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      McDesign | Nov 03, 2009 12:07am | #10

      < wall about 350' long by 50' tall >

      Be interestin' to hear about that . . .

       

      Forrest

      1. whitedogstr8leg | Nov 03, 2009 09:33am | #12

        Doing a "remodel",  the "Tilt-up" concrete walls had to move out about  100', the factory ( a stamping plant in Kalida, Ohio) wasn't going t shut down for the move, so we needed a temp wall built to seal in the space the old wall took up.  2x4 studs and OSB screwed together.  After the walls had been moved and the new roof was in place, the temp wall had to be torn down, stacked up and loaded onto the company trucks.   We went through screws by the bucket full, and tips would last two days, maybe.  We ran TWO sencos, both were the 14 volt type. 

         

         " Although I have the right to remain stupid, I try not to abuse that right"

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          xxPaulCPxx | Nov 04, 2009 08:40pm | #16

          Just an FYI...Ridgid now has an 18v LiIon driver similar to that 14v Senco we've all seen before... and it drives up to 3" screws too.http://www.cpoprotools.com/products/zrr8660.html

          Tu stultus esRebuilding my home in Cypress, CAAlso a CRX fanatic!

          Look, just send me to my drawer.  This whole talking-to-you thing is like double punishment.

  2. Shep | Nov 01, 2009 11:04pm | #2

    I have the corded Duraspin long deck gun. It doesn't get used a whole lot, but has been reliable to date.

    It does take a little adjustment to get a good rhythm to using to using the long gun, but its a great back saver. 

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      BillHartmann | Nov 02, 2009 12:28am | #3

      I am still trying to figure out how use full a collated screw drivers would be.Seems like lots of work getting all of those screw drivers adjusted so that the space the screws correct. And how many screw drivers are collated together?Seems like it would be a messing setup..
      William the Geezer, the sequel to Billy the Kid - Shoe

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      Handydan57 | Nov 02, 2009 01:37am | #4

      Thanks ShepI am buying the gun to do a PT deck so appearance is not critical, but speed is. How tough is it keep the heads lined up and sunk to a consistent depth?thanksDan

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        Matt | Nov 02, 2009 02:00am | #5

        I saw the Senco collated driver on clearence the other day at Lowes.  

        From what I've seen quick drive is the weapon of choice.  I don't own one myself.

        Whatever you buy I'd advise carefully checking on what fasteners are available and how easily you can get them.

      2. Shep | Nov 02, 2009 03:08am | #6

        The Senco sinks the screws to a pretty consistanty depth, and if you take a little time, its pretty easy to keep everything in line. Sighting where the screws go isn't hard to do.

  3. clinkard | Nov 02, 2009 04:30am | #7

    I bought the Quikdrive pro ccs, and I have used it on decks, drywall and subfloors. It is amazingly fast. There was a FH mag article (I believe mike guertin) and he used thin metal strips to align the screws, I tack the board on two joists as best I can, then chalk lines with very little chalk and it looks bang on when it is done.

  4. JeffyT | Nov 02, 2009 05:46am | #8

    The quickdrive gun comes with a choice of a bunch of different motors or you can buy just the attachments and run it off whatever drywall gun you have already.

    The one I use has a Dewalt corded motor. I've never used it for drywall but for decking and subfloors it's fast, reliable, easy to set to depth, quick to load, tough. I have no complaints about it at all. Used it all day in freezing rain on Wednesday with no problems. I can't remember the model name but it's the one that drives the short sticks of collated screws, not the rolls.

    The big benefit over the Senco duraspin is flexibility. You can use it with the standup extension or without, with the drywall bit or the sqare-drive bit, smoothface nose or toothed. I used to do subcontract framing - one house to the next every few days. We drove A LOT of subfloor screws. Only once burned out a motor, but was back in business by the end of the day with a stock Dewalt drywall gun from a local supplier.

    Thumbs up on QuickDrive.

    j

    1. john7g | Nov 03, 2009 02:04pm | #13

      re: burned out motor... maybe you're already doing this but the motors run cooler if you lock it on, keep it on, and don't shut it off 'til your done and keep your hands away form the cooling vents (big problem for me).  My coil QD is one of the very early ones and still working well.

      1. JeffyT | Nov 04, 2009 06:11am | #14

        <burned out motor>the one I had wasn't new and it had an old Porter Cable drill motor. The guy who had it before had been doing 15-20 houses per year for about 4 years with it and I did 2 years of about that much before it got replaced. I think it had done its due already. Come to think of it, I'm not sure how we managed to go from that old PC motor to a DeWalt without changing the adapter mount, but we did and it worked fine. Still does. We usually laid subfloors with two guys, one gluing, laying sheets in, and tacking the corners, and the other running the quickdrive. One stick of screws per sheet. j

        1. john7g | Nov 04, 2009 02:51pm | #15

          >I'm not sure how we managed to go from that old PC motor to a DeWalt without changing the adapter mount<

          I have an old B&D Pro grade chorded screw gun form the early 80s that is identical (except for colors) to the Dewalt motor that is on my QD right now.  Identical.  Maybe that PC has similar genes. 

  5. Hiker | Nov 02, 2009 10:00pm | #9

    I own the quikdrive with the makita drill and extension handle.  Great system and in my opinion the collation in better.  Very stiff plastic.  I think Simpson owns quik drive now.  Lots of screw options as well.

    Bruce

  6. excaliber32 | Nov 03, 2009 04:32am | #11

    I bought the corded Senco. Great for sheetrock or plywood. Only goes up to 2" screws so I don't use it for decking. The ACQ screws are pretty good for it.

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