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Compressor tank rust inhibitor???

MisterT | Posted in Tools for Home Building on December 22, 2006 07:38am

What was the name of the stuff I’m supposed to put in my compressor tank to stop rust???

and where will I be able to ask for it without getting those three-headed alien return looks???

“And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

 It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

 And he puzzled and puzzled ’till his puzzler was sore.

Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn’t before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn’t come from a store.

 Maybe Christmas… perhaps… means a little bit more!â€

“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

Max Rules!!!

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  1. rez | Dec 27, 2006 11:45pm | #1

    Greetings MisterT,

    As a longtime time poster seeing no one has as yet answered your post I'm thinking yer shid outta luck there buddy and sometimes that's the breaks. Sucks but life goes on.

    However, let it be known that this post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again which will still increase it's viewing and maybe, perhaps just maybe, someone will have mercy on your poor soul and throw you an acorn of knowledge from the BT reservoir.

    Cheers

    all alone the captain stands
    hasn't heard from his deckhands
    the gambler tips his hat and walks towards the door.

    it's the second half of the cruise
    and you know he hates to lose

    http://www.quittintime.com/

        



    Edited 12/27/2006 4:33 pm ET by rez

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      IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 01:41am | #3

      after he puts in the antifreeze and destroys his tools he won't need the compressor so the question is moot...

       

      so he's shid outta luck there buddy and sometimes that's the breaks, sucks, but life goes on. 

      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

      WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

      Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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        Luka | Dec 28, 2006 02:11am | #5

        The oil specifically made for air tools is mineral oil and anti-freeze.

        Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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          IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 03:31am | #11

          I called my air tool repair guy and asked about the anti freeze...

          he laffed and asked how many rebuild kits did I want ordered in.. 

          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

          WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

          Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 04:27am | #13

            I called mine and he laughed at you AND your repair guy.

            EDIT: I forgot the smiley. (I'm laughing my arse off over here.)

            =0)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

            Edited 12/27/2006 8:39 pm by Luka

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          IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 03:34am | #12

          besides..

          who wants the stain on the material they're installing when the antifreeze starts misting out the trim gun's exaust port..

          and what will it do to the oiless tools??? 

          Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

          WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

          Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 04:49am | #14

            You've got a very good point there about the effect on the material.As for the tools. Oiled tools, and oiless alike, the antifreeze will help save them from rusting out from the plain old water that will be going through them instead.Anti freeze is formulated to condition seals, and to inhibit rust.You have water in the compressor, whether you like it or not. If you do not filter it 12 ways to sunday before it gets to the tool, you have water getting to the tool as well. The antifreeze will save the tools and your compressor from rust and freezing.

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

          2. SteveFFF | Dec 28, 2006 06:48am | #15

            With all the things you are expecting the antifreeze to do, how much are your pouring in your tank each week?It only took me 1 way to Sunday to stop the water going to the tools, it's called an "air line dryer".Steve.

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 07:53am | #16

            I run about 30 gallons of antifreeze through the compressor every couple of hours of use.

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 08:10am | #18

            Luka...

            30 gallons of antifreeze every two hours..

            what do you use for recovery??? 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 08:37am | #20

            Recovery ?We don't need no steenking recovery !The local dogs and cats are happy to lap up any that doesn't end up evaporating.What they miss, the mountain beavers, or chipmunks or raccoons usually get.Any that gets past all those animals just runs off into the river anyway. Who cares ?;o)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 09:23am | #22

            that's what I thought... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 11:34am | #23

            ;o)With the cost of antifreeze anymore, they should give you a gold funnel to pour it with...=0)
            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 11:41am | #24

            me????

            yur the one using 15 gallons an hour to my none.... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          9. MisterT | Dec 28, 2006 03:14pm | #26

            I LOVE this place!!!

             

             

             "And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

             It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

             And he puzzled and puzzled 'till his puzzler was sore.

            Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.

             Maybe Christmas... perhaps... means a little bit more!”“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

            Max Rules!!!

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 07:29pm | #28

            can you get that sent attachment attached.. 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 05:01pm | #27

            heard back from Senco already..

            do not use antifreeze...

            Use this as a winter oil:

             

            Do not use antifreeze.

             

            No-oil tools – use nothing, but do your best to supply dry air.

              

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 09:57pm | #31

            Well geez, if you can't use antifreeze, then your next best option is to fill the tank with "Great Stuff" !Or you could cut the end off the tank, line everything inside with Grace Ice and Water Sheild, and epoxy the end back on...

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 29, 2006 12:10am | #34

            plan "B"

            Marty,

            Straight antifreeze will absorb moisture in the tanks & help prevent rusting

            but without an oil additive will also dry out the seals in pilot valves,

            idle kits, pressure switches, regulators, & your tools. A better idea might

            be to put a product called Kilfrost into the tanks. You can learn more about

            kilfrost by visiting http://www.keystonelubricants.com

            Best Regards,

            Doug Schlefke

            National Service Manager

            [email protected]

            920-349-3281, ext 142  

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          14. SteveFFF | Dec 29, 2006 02:27am | #37

            Ok, I just gotta ask.I went to Keystone's website and read the PDF on Kilfrost. Nowhere does the manufacturer indicate this product should be used to prevent rust in a compressor tank. Why would you think you should use this instead of a product explicitly developed to prevent rust on a bare metal surface like LPS3 or Boeshield?Steve.

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            IMERC | Dec 29, 2006 06:05am | #41

            Rolair recomended the product... I passed on the information on...

            I wouldn't put oils in my compressors' tanks because of the possible contamination of air lines, tools and the product that I'm working on...

            who needs more add on costs... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 08:28pm | #29

            heard back from flexeel...

            Marty,

             

            Thank you for your inquiry. Anti-Freeze will greatly reduce the life cycle of Flexeel hose. If you are looking to avoid freezing lines we offer WinterGrade Air Tool Lubricant for this purpose. Please contact our Customer Service for availibilty and pricing at 800-526-2100.

             

            Thank You,

             

            Kenneth Spencer

            Coilhose Pneumatics, Inc.

            19 Kimberly Road

            East Brunswick, NJ 08816

            P: 732-390-8480

            F: 732-390-9693  

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 10:03pm | #32

            My repair guy is still laughing at you and your repair guy.And now, his mother is too...;o)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 08:36pm | #30

            heard back from Rolair too..

             

            Good Morning Marty,

            We've never heard of a product that can be used to prevent rust inside the tanks. Even if the inside of a tank is primed & oiled prior to being rolled the welding of the seam & end caps removes any coating that has been applied around those areas.

            The best thing you can do is drain each tank on a daily basis.

            Please note that our drain valves are secured with loctite & you will need to drain the tanks completely &

            apply heat, using a hand held propane torch, to the drain valve coupling before attempting to remove the drain valve(s).

            If your tanks are excessively soiled internally visit http://www.petroferm.com for information on cleaning agents that can be used to flush the tank(s)

            Best Regards,

            Doug Schlefke

            National Service Manager

            [email protected]

            920-349-3281, ext 142  

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 10:14pm | #33

            Ut oh.His dog is beginning to chuckle.Could lead to a full-on belly laugh.;o)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            IMERC | Dec 29, 2006 12:12am | #35

            that's okay...

            like simple minds (83184.32) are easy to amuse..

            but he does have a novel way of selling more repairs, parts and equipment... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 29, 2006 03:22am | #38

            There are other advantages to a simple mind, as well...Like, simply forgetting what was in a movie, so a couple years later, it is almost like a new movie.I just watched lethal weapon one and two yesterday, and they were almost new to me. Pretty cool !;o)=0)
            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

          22. DanH | Dec 29, 2006 04:56am | #39

            Then you'll LOVE Alzheimer's -- you can watch the same movie all day and it'll still be new to you.
            Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot

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            Luka | Dec 29, 2006 07:05am | #42

            Speaking of movies, I watched Lethal Weapon one and two again yesterday, and they were almost like new movies to me !!!=0)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

          24. MisterT | Dec 29, 2006 03:10pm | #43

            jeff if you have any free time you could watch Lethal Weapon I & II you will enjoy them..."And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

             It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

             And he puzzled and puzzled 'till his puzzler was sore.

            Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.

             Maybe Christmas... perhaps... means a little bit more!”“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

            Max Rules!!!

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            Luka | Dec 29, 2006 03:12pm | #44

            Hey !!!That sounds like a great idea !!!I was wondering what I was going to do this evening...=0)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            Luka | Dec 29, 2006 03:17pm | #45

            Do those have a lot of gratuitous violence in them ?I'm in the mood for some good gun chases and car fights tonight.=0)

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

          27. MisterT | Dec 29, 2006 05:33pm | #46

            Does what have what???

            Who are you and why am I typing to you on this internet thing???

            HONEY,  have you seen my pants???

             

             

             "And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

             It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

             And he puzzled and puzzled 'till his puzzler was sore.

            Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.

             Maybe Christmas... perhaps... means a little bit more!”“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

            Max Rules!!!

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            Luka | Dec 30, 2006 01:29am | #47

            Pants...That reminds me of when I was 3 years old and my m... zzzzzzzzWhere are we ?Can I have applesauce for dinner ?

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

          29. MisterT | Dec 30, 2006 04:10pm | #48

            I'm an Excellent Driver..."And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

             It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

             And he puzzled and puzzled 'till his puzzler was sore.

            Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.

             Maybe Christmas... perhaps... means a little bit more!”“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

            Max Rules!!!

          30. DanH | Dec 30, 2006 04:13pm | #49

            Screw or nut?
            Half of the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm but the harm does not interest them. --T.S. Eliot

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            IMERC | Dec 29, 2006 05:59am | #40

            that works on books too..

            save a fortune at book store or movie rental outfit.. 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            MarkH | Dec 30, 2006 04:44pm | #50

            You just inadvertantly answered my rodent problem and compressor problem.  I'll just drain the antifreeze on the floor, no more meeses.

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            Luka | Dec 30, 2006 10:17pm | #52

            Glad to help.;o)Next, how do we get rid of those pesky in-laws ?

            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

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            MarkH | Dec 30, 2006 10:47pm | #53

            I'll ask Gunner.

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            IMERC | Dec 28, 2006 08:08am | #17

            I do use two stage line dryers....

            I use the drain cocks on the tanks too...

            purge the lines before tool hook up in cold weather...

              

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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            Luka | Dec 28, 2006 08:41am | #21

            All good advice.As for MrT's original question...I like handymanvan's suggestion.Remove the tank from the compressor. Pour in enough "RustPho", (From a marine supply.), to coat the entire inside of the tank. Roll the tan around to coat it. Let drain, and let completely cure before putting the tank back in use.If there is already heavy rust in the tank, replace it.
            Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

    2. zift | Dec 28, 2006 02:02am | #4

      nice one, rez

    3. MisterT | Dec 28, 2006 03:10pm | #25

      is it really a reservoir.

      I was thinking more like a remnant of a mud puddle on a hot July day...

      Merry Xmas ya Hippie :)"And the Grinch, with his Grinch-feet ice cold in the snow, stood puzzling and puzzling, how could it be so?

       It came without ribbons. It came without tags. It came without packages, boxes or bags.

       And he puzzled and puzzled 'till his puzzler was sore.

      Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! Maybe Christmas, he thought, doesn't come from a store.

       Maybe Christmas... perhaps... means a little bit more!”“And then the true meaning of Christmas came through, and the Grinch found the strength of ten Grinches plus two. “

      Max Rules!!!

      1. rez | Dec 29, 2006 12:47am | #36

        Christmas? oh yeah that's right.

        whew! Survived it another year.

         

        be planning early to get a head start on next year

         

        seeyou didn't invent santa claus

        http://www.quittintime.com/

            

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    Luka | Dec 27, 2006 11:48pm | #2

    Antifreeze.


    Get over it....... The angry going eat you up. ~Brownbagg '06

  3. FastEddie | Dec 28, 2006 02:20am | #6

    Dang rookie questions muddling up the forum.

    You don't put anything in the tank, you take something out ...  Drain the tank every day to remove condensed water vapor.

     

    "When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it."  T. Roosevelt

  4. Brian | Dec 28, 2006 02:30am | #7

    There is such a product, reviewed in FHB a long while back.  If I ever find it I'll use it.  But for now I drain when I think of it.

    -Brian

     

    Treat every person you meet like you will know them the rest of your life - you just might!
  5. SteveFFF | Dec 28, 2006 02:51am | #8

    When I bought my new compressor I turned it over, poured about half a cup of LPS3 (commercial rust inhibitor), closed the valve, carefully sloshed it around on the bottom half of the tank and then drained it out. That was about 7 years ago and no evidence of any rust in the water that I drain after every use.

    Steve.



    Edited 12/27/2006 6:52 pm ET by SteveFFF

  6. DanH | Dec 28, 2006 02:55am | #9

    I always thought that's what all the spilled compressor oil was for.

    People never lie so much as before an election, during a war, or after a hunt. --Otto von Bismarck
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    RichBeckman | Dec 28, 2006 03:27am | #10

    "What was the name of the stuff I'm supposed to put in my compressor tank to stop rust???"

    Kreem??? POR-15

    See:

    http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=45624.20

    and a couple of subsequent posts.

    "and where will I be able to ask for it without getting those three-headed alien return looks???"

    I don't know.

    Rich Beckman

    This signature line intentionally left blank.

  8. handymanvan | Dec 28, 2006 08:12am | #19

    Rust Converter, looks milky best I can tell, it completely covers the rust and makes it hard and sealed up. I like the stuff, comes in pour in and spray in.

  9. Virginbuild | Dec 30, 2006 04:57pm | #51

    The last compressor I purchased, I removed the motor and all the fittings. I plugged the treaded openings with rags, opened the 2 inch inspection plug, got a coat hanger to knock off all the interior tank paint that had been burned by the manufacturer during welding the motor mounts and frame for the wheels. Then I poured in a quart or so of this gooey gas tank sealer (from J.C. Whitney), put the inspection plug back in and rolled the tank around to coat all the interior. Next I removed the inspection plug and the rags from the fitting ports, drained out the remaining liquid and let the tank dry out for a few days. I re-mounted the fittings and motor. That was nearly thirty years ago and the tank still as good as new.

    Virginbuild

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